Ok... Here we go! I do use the crimps regularly.. But to use propery, the ground wires must also be twisted at least 3 turns along with the crimp. (Told to me by a foreman back in my early days..) So this is the practice I've followed ever since... The green pigtail combo setups are nice, but as other have said, they're not even close to cost effective. A properly installed crimp on a set of ground wires that are twisted together make a good connection IMO... Not to mention alot of the work I do involves going into existing installations where box space seems to be at a premium most of the time... Changing an old weatherproof outlet which is only in a handy-box (in the wall).. Even with a weather-tight extension ring, it's a tight fit to get a GFI in there! I use these with the bare terminal slot..

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-Randy



[This message has been edited by Lostazhell (edited 05-24-2004).]