I guess Iam confused, I worked with some electricians from the local about 3 years ago. They liked my work and knowledge at the industrial level and the company they were working for asked me if I wanted a job. We talked about what was required and the local union guys told me that the apprenticeship program was by the way side and that with my knowledge and ability I would be a shoe in. I asked about testing and they said all I would have to do was take a test on the NEC which was open book. What would they have been talking about if it wasn't a journeymans card? By the way, this was a Harrisburg local.