While we are breaing our souls, allow me. I have been an E&I(elc.& instrument)Tech in a chemical research plant since 1984.Mostly OJT and local trade school evening classes. I passed the Phila. elect contractors exam in 1990 and started a side business in hopes of making it rich?!!. After 2 years I gave it up for the security of my day job. Fast fwd 2000, company for sale for 3rd time in 5 years. Bought a truck and decided this time it's for real. Maintenance vs. contracting are 2 different animals and this forum has been very helpful. Thanks, all! Funny thing is, last year I convinced my company to enter into an apprenticeship agreement with PA, and began more evening classes to recieve a journeyman card. I'm actually going to school that I may not finish for a credential that I don't really need.