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725.54D '99 NEC #91818
02/07/05 09:54 PM
02/07/05 09:54 PM
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e57  Offline OP
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Today I was looking around the site, and noticed the burlar alarm guy has supported the majority of his cabling on my FLS and Power/Signal conduits on this whole floor. I gave him fair warning that it needed to be removed, (Or I'd send 15 guys down there to cut into the smallest peices they could. I thought it, I didn't say it!) and that it was a code violation.

Now he has the Arch, and GC trying to get me to allow it. I will not!

But it did bring up an interesting question, and I figured I'd take it here:

What about supporting his Class 2 cable to conduits for, and containing Tel and Data or class 2 and 3?

The way I read it, the answer is no. Or is a descretion call? I'd say it's a maybe. What do you think?

Quote
725.54(d) Support of Conductors. Class 2 or Class 3 circuit conductors shall not be strapped, taped, or attached by any means to the exterior of any conduit or other raceway as a means of support.
Exception: Except as permitted by Section 300-11(b)(2).


Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
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Re: 725.54D '99 NEC #91819
02/07/05 10:30 PM
02/07/05 10:30 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline
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Boston, Massachusetts USA
300.11(B)(2) was added to allow wiring such as thermostat wires to be secured to the outside of a raceway only.

You got it right they are violating the rule you mentioned. Better to have the AHJ call this out.


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: 725.54D '99 NEC #91820
02/07/05 10:31 PM
02/07/05 10:31 PM
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George Little  Offline
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Michigan USA
What's FLS?

Someplace in the '99 NEC it uses the words "functionally associated" as an exception. I don't know if this is the case here or not.


George Little
Re: 725.54D '99 NEC #91821
02/07/05 11:07 PM
02/07/05 11:07 PM
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e57  Offline OP
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Fire-Life-Safety (Fire Alarm)

Joe, I'll bring the camera tomorrow, you'll love it!


Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
Re: 725.54D '99 NEC #91822
02/08/05 07:58 PM
02/08/05 07:58 PM
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e57  Offline OP
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Sorry Joe, forgot the camera today, and by the time I got there they had already removered most of it.


Mark Heller
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