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AFCI Question #83637
02/10/03 09:15 PM
02/10/03 09:15 PM
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pip  Offline OP
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Little Elm,Tx
In 210.12(B) it says -All branch circuits that supply 125v, single phase, 15 and 20 amp
OUTLETS in berooms shall be protected. My question is is a switch for a light fixture considered an outlet?

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Re: AFCI Question #83638
02/10/03 09:35 PM
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Article 100 Definitions
Outlet-A point on the wiring system at which current is taken to supply utilization equipment.
Not by definition,but if the switch is supplying a fixture in the bedroom it would have to be on the AFCI circuit.

BTW-- Where is Little Elm?

[This message has been edited by txsparky (edited 02-10-2003).]


Donnie
Re: AFCI Question #83639
02/11/03 07:31 AM
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Redsy  Offline
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Actually 210.12 (2002 NEC) requires the AFCI to "provide protection for the entire branch circuit".
It was the '99 code that referred to the "outlets"

Re: AFCI Question #83640
02/11/03 10:42 AM
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resqcapt19  Offline
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I still want to konw where I can find an outlet that is rated 125 volts, 15 or 20 amps.
Don


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Re: AFCI Question #83641
02/11/03 12:02 PM
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Don,

Check the supplier that provides the 3 phase 115 volt motors listed in Table 430.150! [Linked Image]

Re: AFCI Question #83642
02/11/03 02:28 PM
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ElectricAL  Offline
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Following on what txsparky said, and a comment I just saw in Mike's latest newsletter, since a switch is not an outlet (definition). . .if the switch inside the bedroom is controlling only load outside the bedroom (say, the outdoor flood lighting, or the closet light), then the branch circuit the switch is in does not require AFCI protection.


Al Hildenbrand
Re: AFCI Question #83643
02/11/03 10:02 PM
02/11/03 10:02 PM
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pip  Offline OP
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Little Elm,Tx
thanks guys...first, the 2002 does refer to 15 and 20 amp outlets 210.12(b). Second, little elm is in the DFW 10 miles from Frisco
and about 25 miles north of Dallas. Fastest growing city in texas by percentage population under 50,000. Thanks for the posts...helped me win an arguement.

Re: AFCI Question #83644
02/12/03 12:13 PM
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energy7  Offline
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Oxnard, CA, USA
And part of the array of outlets to be protected are the Smokeys (210-8). Can anyone in CMP#2 tell me why?


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