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Romex with cordcap? #40240
07/17/04 05:32 AM
07/17/04 05:32 AM
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shortcircuit  Offline OP
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I have a situation with some romex run up behind one of the new plasma tv mounted on the wall above a fireplace in a family room...the romex is for the 120 volt supply for the tv, but there is not much room for a box and outlet setup, so I wanted to just put a female cord cap on the end of the romex. Is their anything in the code that would prohibit this installation. Also, the other end of the romex runs to the entertainment center where the DVD,VCR,etc are located and I want to terminate that end of the romex with a female 120volt cord cap so we can plug it into a surge protection strip. The piece of romex runs about 10 feet through the wall between where the plasma is and the DVD,VCR,etc are located.Will this be a violation of the code?

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Re: Romex with cordcap? #40241
07/17/04 06:11 AM
07/17/04 06:11 AM
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Yes it will be a violation.
Cord caps are meant to be used on cord.

Maybe a "clock outlet", (a recessed outlet) is what you're looking for.
It will allow you to plug in a plasma screen, and still have it fit flat on the wall.

Re: Romex with cordcap? #40242
07/17/04 06:36 AM
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electure,thanx for the reply. What article of the code restricts a cord caps use in this way?
Where the TV is set up for installation there is 1/2 blue board over the brick of the fireplace, so we can't recess a box.

Re: Romex with cordcap? #40243
07/17/04 08:51 AM
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Shortcircuit UL calls a cord cap an attachment plug.

2002 UL White Book
ATTACHMENT PLUGS, FUSELESS (AXUT)

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Attachment Plug — A male contact device for the temporary connection of a flexible cord or cable to a receptacle, cord connector, or other female outlet device.


Notice they specify flexible cord.

They also describe the terminals.

Quote
Terminals — Terminals of appliance couplers, appliance and flatiron plugs, attachment plugs, cord connectors and table taps are intended for use with stranded copper conductors of the type used in flexible cord.


And from the NEC

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110.3 Examination, Identification, Installation, and Use of Equipment.

(B) Installation and Use.
Listed or labeled equipment shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions included in the listing or labeling.


We can not use equipment in a way that it was not intended to be used.

[This message has been edited by iwire (edited 07-17-2004).]


Bob Badger
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Re: Romex with cordcap? #40244
07/17/04 09:48 AM
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Bob, not to be a pain [Linked Image], I know you had the right idea, but an attachment plug is not a receptacle or cord connector as per UL.
An attachment plug is " a male contact device ...".
a cord connector is " a female contact device to be wired on flexible cord for use as and extension from an outlet to make a detachable electrical connection to an attachment plug or, as an appliance coupler, to a male inlet."

This specifically describes the 'cord connector' as being installed on a flexible cord, and not to a chapter 3 wiring method.

406.6 requires all cord connectors to be listed, that puts us in the direction of the manufacuturer's instructions and the UL White Book.

Pierre


Pierre Belarge
Re: Romex with cordcap? #40245
07/17/04 11:04 AM
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iwire  Offline
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I don't usually get males and females mixed up but other than gender (I thought he was using a male on the NM) what I said remains the same.

Attachment plugs and cord connectors are the in the same section of the UL white book.

Bob




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Bob Badger
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Re: Romex with cordcap? #40246
07/17/04 11:28 AM
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[Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by iwire (edited 07-17-2004).]


Bob Badger
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Re: Romex with cordcap? #40247
07/17/04 12:18 PM
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thanx...I'll use a shallow wiremould box with a device:< )


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