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#2047 - 06/17/01 10:34 AM Itemized proposals?  
Redsy  Offline
Joined: Mar 2001
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Bucks County PA
A new barber shop requires the following elements:
1- Genareal area lighting.
2- Receptacles for barber stations.
3- 240 Volt AC ckt.
4- A ceiling fan.
5- Restroom wiring.
6- Exit sign.

Would you give one total price, or itemize each aspect with separate pricing and then show the total cost?

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#2048 - 06/17/01 11:13 AM Re: Itemized proposals?  
sparky66wv  Offline
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West Virginia
I like to itemize down to the wirenuts and screws...

It only protects me from the unseen circumstances and change orders.

Giving someone a set price without itemizing what the price covers is a recipe for finacial disaster.

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#2049 - 06/17/01 11:16 AM Re: Itemized proposals?  
Redsy  Offline
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I think it also helps minimize "sticker shock". Customers are able to see how it all adds up.

#2050 - 06/17/01 04:30 PM Re: Itemized proposals?  
Tom  Offline
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Shinnston, WV USA
I give a very detailed bill on time & material work. I do not break down any of the costs on bid work unless specifically asked to do so.


Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.

#2051 - 06/17/01 05:12 PM Re: Itemized proposals?  
sparky  Offline
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I will detail finely on T&M, I will itemize bigger jobs ( big for me) as to what work is to be done & major materials in sections similar to your list Redsy.

It makes it easier for the customer to 'veto' any line item.

#2052 - 06/23/01 01:24 AM Re: Itemized proposals?  
spkjpr  Offline
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Posts: 218
Sedalia,MO, USA
I saw this and had a question. Have any of you been burned by a D-I-Y er who used your proposal as his material list and you lost the job? This has happened to me several times. I work in a combined city (has to be inspected) and rural setting ( no inspection). Seems to happen more often on the rural side.

#2053 - 06/23/01 05:52 AM Re: Itemized proposals?  
sparky  Offline
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yes i have, and as a result i will purposely draw vauge prints , or write up proposals that detail the work involved more than the specific parts involved.

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#2054 - 06/23/01 08:39 AM Re: Itemized proposals?  
Bill Addiss  Offline
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I've heard that some people (not big jobs) will work up the numbers and only give a verbal quote unless the customer will sign a contract or they are compensated in some way for providing a written one.
I've seen a number of times where the only purpose of the estimate was to satisfy an Insurance claim. They have no intention of hiring anybody, or certainly not us.


#2055 - 06/24/01 07:13 AM Re: Itemized proposals?  
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The thing about 'customer service' is that there always seems to be a different customer on the horizon

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