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Itemized proposals? #2047
06/17/01 09:34 AM
06/17/01 09:34 AM
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Redsy  Offline OP
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Bucks County PA
A new barber shop requires the following elements:
1- Genareal area lighting.
2- Receptacles for barber stations.
3- 240 Volt AC ckt.
4- A ceiling fan.
5- Restroom wiring.
6- Exit sign.

Question--
Would you give one total price, or itemize each aspect with separate pricing and then show the total cost?

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Re: Itemized proposals? #2048
06/17/01 10:13 AM
06/17/01 10:13 AM
sparky66wv  Offline
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I like to itemize down to the wirenuts and screws...

It only protects me from the unseen circumstances and change orders.

Giving someone a set price without itemizing what the price covers is a recipe for finacial disaster.


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Re: Itemized proposals? #2049
06/17/01 10:16 AM
06/17/01 10:16 AM
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Redsy  Offline OP
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I think it also helps minimize "sticker shock". Customers are able to see how it all adds up.

Re: Itemized proposals? #2050
06/17/01 03:30 PM
06/17/01 03:30 PM
Tom  Offline
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Shinnston, WV USA
I give a very detailed bill on time & material work. I do not break down any of the costs on bid work unless specifically asked to do so.

Tom


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Re: Itemized proposals? #2051
06/17/01 04:12 PM
06/17/01 04:12 PM
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I will detail finely on T&M, I will itemize bigger jobs ( big for me) as to what work is to be done & major materials in sections similar to your list Redsy.

It makes it easier for the customer to 'veto' any line item.

Re: Itemized proposals? #2052
06/23/01 12:24 AM
06/23/01 12:24 AM
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spkjpr  Offline
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Sedalia,MO, USA
I saw this and had a question. Have any of you been burned by a D-I-Y er who used your proposal as his material list and you lost the job? This has happened to me several times. I work in a combined city (has to be inspected) and rural setting ( no inspection). Seems to happen more often on the rural side.

Re: Itemized proposals? #2053
06/23/01 04:52 AM
06/23/01 04:52 AM
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spkjpr,
yes i have, and as a result i will purposely draw vauge prints , or write up proposals that detail the work involved more than the specific parts involved.

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[This message has been edited by sparky (edited 06-23-2001).]

Re: Itemized proposals? #2054
06/23/01 07:39 AM
06/23/01 07:39 AM
Bill Addiss  Offline
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I've heard that some people (not big jobs) will work up the numbers and only give a verbal quote unless the customer will sign a contract or they are compensated in some way for providing a written one.
I've seen a number of times where the only purpose of the estimate was to satisfy an Insurance claim. They have no intention of hiring anybody, or certainly not us.

Bill

Re: Itemized proposals? #2055
06/24/01 06:13 AM
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The thing about 'customer service' is that there always seems to be a different customer on the horizon


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