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#178952 - 06/17/08 06:36 PM $499 Denon Ethernet cable.  
Sandro  Offline
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Saw this on one of the A/V forums. Denon just released a 1.5 meter ethernet cable for $499!


http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp

Here is a quote from one independent tester : "But is the criticism of Denon fair? Officially, the Denon AK-DLI Ultra Premium link cable is a proprietary audio cable used between Denon audio products. Chris Eberle, an ISF calibrator, however has demonstrated that the Ultra link cable can be successfully replaced by a regular CAT5 Ethernet cable that sells for a few cents per foot."


I'd like to know how many people have acutally bought this.


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#178954 - 06/17/08 08:06 PM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: Sandro]  
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Exactly. Like CAT5 is even necessary for 80% of the installations where it is specified and used anyway. This is all hype that was spawned by cable manufacturers years ago to scare people into buying more expensive cable. Now they are relying upon the computer geeks out there to keep spreading the word. People are such saps.


---Ed---

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."

#178957 - 06/17/08 08:57 PM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: Sandro]  
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Originally Posted by Sandro
I'd like to know how many people have acutally bought this.


The same people buy these cables that buy this stuff.
A cable for $499. Now thats cheap.

http://www.higherfi.com/audio_speakers/1

http://www.higherfi.com/audio_amps/1

http://www.higherfi.com/audio_phono/1

http://www.higherfi.com/audio_cables/1

What's your markup when you sell your customers this stuff?





Last edited by A-Line; 06/17/08 09:01 PM.

#178960 - 06/17/08 09:42 PM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: A-Line]  
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Interesting business model--"Make two sales, and retire."


#178965 - 06/18/08 12:16 AM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: SolarPowered]  
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Portland, Oregon, United State...
WTF?


#178968 - 06/18/08 01:45 PM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: noderaser]  
pauluk  Offline
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Look's like Denon is moving into the Snakeoil business.

As for those speakers, I assume those prices mean that you are buying them complete with the house they are located in? wink


#178978 - 06/18/08 11:09 PM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: pauluk]  
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada...eh
This takes the old saying, "The more you make, the more you spend" to ridiculous new heights.


Shawn.


#179075 - 06/25/08 06:51 AM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: SP4RX]  
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"the AK-DL1 will bring out all the nuances in digital audio reproduction from any of our Denon DVD players with the Denon Link feature. "

What? Is this the same crap that's replacing all those $1 digital audio cables on my equipment with $20 TOS link for no apparent reason? I get see people chumped over monster speaker cable, but don't audio enthusiests realize digital is digital and it either works or doesn't, there's nothing in between?

Also: signal directional markings, LOL!


#179725 - 07/29/08 11:38 AM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: SteveFehr]  
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I saw a european house panel that had its' neutral and bonding terminals changed for gold plated copper busses that was only $3000. The reseller called it an audiophile panel. The breakers were rated for Euro voltages ie 220/440 and if I recall it was like a 12 circuit panel. I doubt the normal retail is anything higher than 2 or 300 Euros. Even the gold plated copper buss can't cost more than a hundred Euros. So the %600 markup is pretty sweet. I wonder if they use high purity oxygen free AC cable too.
As far as code goes the neutral is black and the single phase conductor is red. I guess just to be consistent the grounds were probably green with a yellow stripe.
I think most of this stuff is a race to brag about who spent more on their audio systems because nobody can even hear the difference.


#179823 - 08/02/08 06:57 AM Re: $499 Denon Ethernet cable. [Re: mikesh]  
pauluk  Offline
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Originally Posted by mikesh
I saw a european house panel that had its' neutral and bonding terminals changed for gold plated copper busses that was only $3000. {.....}
As far as code goes the neutral is black and the single phase conductor is red.


That sounds as though it would have been British or Irish, since I'm not aware of any Continental European countries which have ever used black neutral, red phase.


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