ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Trumpy 5
Recent Posts
Another generator question
by HotLine1. 09/23/17 10:58 AM
What do you do?
by gfretwell. 09/22/17 10:37 PM
Supporting conduit bodies
by ghost307. 09/18/17 12:12 PM
Thermal Imaging Camera upgrade
by Potseal. 09/18/17 11:57 AM
Linear Power Supply Quits Under Load
by JoeTestingEngr. 09/15/17 11:37 PM
New in the Gallery:
Gallery Test
Popular Topics(Views)
240,893 Are you busy
176,647 Re: Forum
168,552 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 50 guests, and 8 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#173836 - 01/20/08 11:14 AM Municipal Firehouse  
Frank Cinker  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 311
Pennsylvania
When applying the NEC, is a municipal firehouse considered a dwelling unit. It appears as if it is, according to the definition of dwelling unit given in article 100.

Frank


2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides

#173839 - 01/20/08 12:25 PM Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: Frank Cinker]  
Tom  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,044
Shinnston, WV USA
It looks like the firehouse meets the NEC definition to me, too. You might want to look into the Life Safety Code since this is also a mixed occupancy. The NEC requirements for dwellings might only apply to the areas that involve sleeping, cooking, bathrooms.



Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.

#173851 - 01/20/08 08:46 PM Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: Frank Cinker]  
sparkyinak  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,327
Alaska
A firehouse IMO is multiple occupancy. Typically in a situation is when you have a conflict in the rules, typically the more sticter prevails. The Life Safety codes are only applicable if it is adopted like the electrical code ot a building code. At a minimum though they can shed light on the matter pending what you are trying to address. You may want to contact the AHJ if you have codes overlapping.


"Live Awesome!" - Kevin Carosa

#173856 - 01/20/08 10:59 PM Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: sparkyinak]  
renosteinke  Offline
Cat Servant
Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
Out this way, a firehouse is often a light steel garage, a 'manufactured home,' and a covered passage between the two. In that design, it's pretty simple to separate the structure into different occupancies.


#173862 - 01/21/08 07:06 AM Municipal Firehouse [Re: renosteinke]  
Frank Cinker  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 311
Pennsylvania
Our building code department indicated it was a class "B" occupancy; but didn't expand on it.
Also, when calculating the service size for a new "mixed occcupancy" building what does the design professional use, the residental standard calculation or commercial calculation?

Frank


#173867 - 01/21/08 05:28 PM Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: Frank Cinker]  
sparkyinak  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,327
Alaska
Typically they use comercial calculations, for example 180VA per recept, 100%DF on lighting loads, etc.


"Live Awesome!" - Kevin Carosa


Member Spotlight
mersadrad
mersadrad
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 28
Joined: March 2011
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.023s Queries: 15 (0.005s) Memory: 0.7767 MB (Peak: 0.9256 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-09-23 20:08:19 UTC