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Municipal Firehouse #173836
01/20/08 10:14 AM
01/20/08 10:14 AM
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Frank Cinker  Offline OP
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When applying the NEC, is a municipal firehouse considered a dwelling unit. It appears as if it is, according to the definition of dwelling unit given in article 100.

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Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: Frank Cinker] #173839
01/20/08 11:25 AM
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It looks like the firehouse meets the NEC definition to me, too. You might want to look into the Life Safety Code since this is also a mixed occupancy. The NEC requirements for dwellings might only apply to the areas that involve sleeping, cooking, bathrooms.



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Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: Frank Cinker] #173851
01/20/08 07:46 PM
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A firehouse IMO is multiple occupancy. Typically in a situation is when you have a conflict in the rules, typically the more sticter prevails. The Life Safety codes are only applicable if it is adopted like the electrical code ot a building code. At a minimum though they can shed light on the matter pending what you are trying to address. You may want to contact the AHJ if you have codes overlapping.


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Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: sparkyinak] #173856
01/20/08 09:59 PM
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Out this way, a firehouse is often a light steel garage, a 'manufactured home,' and a covered passage between the two. In that design, it's pretty simple to separate the structure into different occupancies.

Municipal Firehouse [Re: renosteinke] #173862
01/21/08 06:06 AM
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Frank Cinker  Offline OP
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Our building code department indicated it was a class "B" occupancy; but didn't expand on it.
Also, when calculating the service size for a new "mixed occcupancy" building what does the design professional use, the residental standard calculation or commercial calculation?

Frank

Re: Municipal Firehouse [Re: Frank Cinker] #173867
01/21/08 04:28 PM
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Typically they use comercial calculations, for example 180VA per recept, 100%DF on lighting loads, etc.


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