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#139635 - 12/04/03 01:00 PM British Blackouts  
pauluk  Offline
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For British members of ECN, and anyone else who can receive BBC television by whatever means, there is a TV show coming up next week entitled "Blackout Britain."

It's billed as an investigation into the state of Britain's power system and will supposedly reveal how vulnerable we are to blackouts.

I have no idea how technical or otherwise the report will be, but it might be worth a look (if only to wait for mistakes and poke fun at the TV journalists! [Linked Image]).

BBC-2, 7:30 p.m., Wedenesday, December 10.

Any of you outside the U.K. but with access to digital satellite, note that BBC is now free to air, so you might be able to watch it as well:

Astra 2D, 28.2 deg. E, 10773 MHz horizontal, SR 22000, FEC 5/6, SID 6302.


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#139636 - 12/04/03 03:47 PM Re: British Blackouts  
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Thanks paul will be looking at that, im sure it will be very intresting!

look forward to disscussions later!!!!


#139637 - 12/04/03 03:52 PM Re: British Blackouts  
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my astra is set at 19.2 deg east. is that a different astra, or comes that because i am more eastern than you?


edit: i can view BBC world on astra digital. is that what you're talking about?

[This message has been edited by :andy: (edited 12-04-2003).]


#139638 - 12/04/03 05:51 PM Re: British Blackouts  
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I have no link to reference, but hopefully in the UK they won’t try the brilliant scheme a US utility apparently had...conveniently reporting your home power outage via the internet {?!?}


#139639 - 12/04/03 09:48 PM Re: British Blackouts  
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andy:
Yeah it's a different Astra cluster aimed primaraly at the UK & Ireland.

The satellites are EutelSat's EuroBird 1 & Astra 2A,2B,2D are all recievable with a single sky minidish from the same point in the sky:
28.2° East

Astra 2D in particular is extremely narrowly focused on the UK and Ireland and is used to carry all of BBC's UK television services (including all regional versions) (and also RTE (Ireland) Radio [TV is encrypted and on Eurobird 1]) in the clear but you could have difficulty recieving them outside of their intended broadcast area. Most of the encrypted Sky digital channels on 28.2° E have a much wider footprint

[Linked Image]

Channel listing:
http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2d.shtml


[This message has been edited by djk (edited 12-04-2003).]


#139640 - 12/05/03 07:12 AM Re: British Blackouts  
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Andy,

Sorry, I didn't mean to mislead by omission. Yes, the Astra 2D beam that carries domestic BBC signals is a narrow beam aimed at the British Isles, so you'd need something a little larger than the average sized mini-dish to receive it in Germany.

BBC-2 is not the same as BBC World. BBC-2 is one of our domestic BBC channels, although sometimes documentaries originally made for BBC-1 or 2 eventually find their way onto the worldwide services.

The Astra cluster at 19.2 deg. E was where many British satellite viewers were aimed when using analog transmissions. It has always been a complaint that many of our services were scrambled whereas RTL and most of the other German-language channels were free to air.


#139641 - 12/05/03 07:17 AM Re: British Blackouts  
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I have no link to reference, but hopefully in the UK they won’t try the brilliant scheme a US utility apparently had...conveniently reporting your home power outage via the internet {?!?}


Reminds me of a project my father was involved in some 20+ years ago in a big building. It was only after he was called in to cost the job that he noticed somebody had designed the elevator wiring such that the alarm system was just tapped from the main elevator supply. [Linked Image]


#139642 - 12/06/03 05:37 AM Re: British Blackouts  
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Hey Paul,
Was your father an Electrician?.
I must say, even though I will not see the actual show, I'm with James S and I also look forward to the discussions on this one.


Let's face it, these days if you're not young, you're old - Red Green grin

#139643 - 12/07/03 05:47 AM Re: British Blackouts  
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No, he wasn't an electrician, although like myself, he gained an interest in all things electrical at an early age which stayed with him all his life (I'll post a couple of stories sometime! [Linked Image]).

My long-suffering mother often put up with technical discussions over the dinner table!

At the time of this elevator alarm mix-up Dad was the cost and quantity surveyor for Thorn-Benham, the company installing the heating and ventilation plant in the building.


[This message has been edited by pauluk (edited 12-07-2003).]


#139644 - 12/10/03 06:34 PM Re: British Blackouts  
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OK, who saw the program tonight? It seemed a little slow to get going, with rather pointless "reconstructions" of what happens in a blackout, but after that it did raise some interesting points.

I recorded the show, and I have a suggestion for anyone who is interested in seeing it. Add your name to this thread, and each of us can mail it on to the next person in turn (in order of postings in this thread, to be fair).

That way anyone who wants to view can see it, and each of us will only have to pay one lot of postage to forward it to the next person.

Sound OK everyone?

*** Please note: Tape is VHS 625-line PAL format, recorded standard play.


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