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#134065 - 10/22/02 05:43 PM Israeli Systems  
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Does anybody know what systems are used in israel? TN, TT? 230/400V, 3 Fase or Monofase?


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#134066 - 10/23/02 08:54 AM Re: Israeli Systems  
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Ok, here's what I could find: Israel uses plugs similar to the Autralia/NZ plugs, only with hot/neutral pin upside down (V-shape, not an inverted V). One list shows a 230/400 V supply at 50Hz.
However, this list showed the following power systems for the UK:
1ph 240/480 AC
3ph 240/415
1,3ph 220/380
1,3ph 230/400
I'm wondering about the accuracy of this list..
Pauluk, have you ever encountered a 1ph/3w system or a 220/380 3ph one in England?
I've also never heard of the use of a 127/220V system in Italy.
France lists a whole batch of systems:
220/380 2,4w
115/200 2,4w
127/220
110/220
230
115/230
125/220
Spain has also 127/220 on the list.
At leat interesting. http://www.crmagnetics.com/frequency.htm


#134067 - 10/23/02 10:18 AM Re: Israeli Systems  
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I've seen pictures of some Israeli outlets and plugs and I noticed the live, neutral and earth pins are actually more of an oval shape.

I understand that this way you can also connect a two-pin Europlug (for Class 2 appliances).

The Israeli plug/socket configuration is
proprietary.

You can see a picture of one at:
http://www.panelcomponents.com/pcc/scripts/wsisa.dll/WService=panel-pcc/p80form.p?w_part=88010580


#134068 - 10/23/02 11:15 AM Re: Israeli Systems  
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I've seen several lists with similar information. They all seem to be 30 or so years behind. (Upper Volta, East Germany and other countries long gone are still live and well on these)

The US Department of Commerce has a list, on which most others are based. (Have a look at their webpage for the most update version.)

The list you quote is based on the 1991 version. It contains various strange informations like Spain being on 127V but about to change to 220V!

My guess is that Israel use the 220-240/380-415V like most countries. The country is a new one (1948) and belonged to the Brits before. It's also small. There cannot be much room for a plethora of systems.

Countries like the US where electricity came first still have to fight with a whole range of different systems. For a country choosing a system when electricity was already a mature technology, there would have been little incentive to adopted any other than the most common of these.


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#134069 - 10/23/02 03:51 PM Re: Israeli Systems  
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I'm wondering about the accuracy of this list..
Pauluk, have you ever encountered a 1ph/3w system or a 220/380 3ph one in England?


I've come across several variations of these lists on the net (and elsewhere); much of the information does seem to be of dubious accuracy.

The U.K. did indeed have a nominal 220/380V system in some areas at one time, along with 230/400, 250/433 and other similar variations. Standardization at 240/415V nominal was completed in the early 1970s.

I've never heard of a 1-ph 3-wire 240/480V AC system being used here. We did have 3-wire DC systems in many old towns until well into the 1950s/1960s. The nominal voltages were anything from 200/400 to 250/500V.



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