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Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133441
08/10/02 02:27 AM
08/10/02 02:27 AM
Trumpy  Offline
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I have found an increasing number of
strip connectors used for joins in cables in
roof voids, this is quite worrying, considering
that they almost always involve the live
conductor, of a two-way lighting circuit.
Normally these wires have to be joined in a
fitting, under AS/NZ 3000,
Anybody feel different?.

[This message has been edited by Trumpy (edited 09-04-2002).]

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Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133442
08/11/02 08:11 AM
08/11/02 08:11 AM
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pauluk  Offline
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Norfolk, England
I see this all the time as well. I have no idea about AS/NZ 3000, but certainly our IEE Wiring Regs. here require that the connections be made inside a proper enclosure.

Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133443
08/20/02 09:03 AM
08/20/02 09:03 AM
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Such as a proper junction box, right?

It's a bit dangerous leaving a choco-block in mid-air (yes we're familiar with them in the States, and I used a 3-terminal block instead of the normal American marrettes when wiring up my fume hood - looks much neater and it is enclosed in the wiring panel of the hood).

There's always a danger of something falling into the recessed screw terminals or the entire thing snagging and pulling apart....same thing with Marrettes also I guess.

Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133444
08/20/02 03:05 PM
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pauluk  Offline
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Hi Sven,

Like this attempt by somebody to wire two dimmers into some living room lights:
[Linked Image]

This junction just had a couple of turns of PVC tape around it and was loose under the floorboards. I suppose I should have been grateful for the tape -- Others don't have anything around them.....


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Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133445
08/21/02 01:32 AM
08/21/02 01:32 AM
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Sven,
What is a Marette, that you speak of?
Is this a type of J-Box?.

Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133446
08/21/02 05:58 AM
08/21/02 05:58 AM
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pauluk  Offline
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Good question. Is it a brand of wirenut?

Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133447
08/21/02 08:52 AM
08/21/02 08:52 AM
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Hi Guys,

Sorry.

Yes, Marrettes is another name for wire nuts. Don't know if it was a brand at one point (sort of like Kleenex for tissues).

Saw someone use that term in some other message board and its been bandied about in some websites...I usually call them 'splice caps' though. :-)

Do a www.google.com search on marrettes and you'll see.

--
sven

Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133448
08/22/02 04:34 AM
08/22/02 04:34 AM
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Texas_Ranger  Offline
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I've seen strip connectors buried in plaster. It's nice to scrape the rock hard gypsum out of the terminal screws to open them! Also I don't want to imagine the wall to get moist.

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Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133449
10/13/02 09:49 AM
10/13/02 09:49 AM
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Didn't anybody hear of Wago. Nobody uses choco blocks or marrettes here anymore.


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Re: Use Of Strip Connectors in Ceilings #133450
10/13/02 10:46 AM
10/13/02 10:46 AM
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C-H  Offline
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Stockholm, Sweden
>Didn't anybody hear of Wago.
>Nobody uses choco blocks or marrettes
>here anymore.

You mean those "push-in" connectors where the wires jump out after some time? Yes, they are used here in Sweden, too. Some people even seem to like them. IMHO, wire nuts are better.

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