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Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122582
12/02/05 11:01 PM
12/02/05 11:01 PM
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300.5 (D)(3) Requires a warning ribbon at least a foot above unencased service conductors that are buried more than 18" deep.
Don't you think that this should be required on other underground installations as well?


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Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122583
12/02/05 11:08 PM
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You mean this isn't a "warning" to AHJs? (grin)

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Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122584
12/03/05 04:08 AM
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Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122585
12/03/05 04:33 PM
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I think the proper cite(s) would be 90.2 and 90.4.
(Especially in regards to enforcing non-existant requirements or the use of no-existant equipment).

Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122586
12/03/05 07:58 PM
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Upon finding this tape in the ground do you hand dig, or continue with a back-hoe?


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Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122587
12/05/05 07:53 PM
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OK, maybe the example is a little silly, but I think my question is a valid one.

Why should it be a requirement to put a warning ribbon above a 100 Amp residential 120/240 Volt service lateral, maybe fed by a 25 KVA transformer, when there's no requirement to provide the same type of warning above a 1000 Amp 480 Volt feeder?

Is my reasoning even goofier than usual? What am I missing here?

Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122588
12/05/05 08:24 PM
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IMO your right, it makes no sense to me that this only applies to service conductors.


Bob Badger
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Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122589
12/05/05 08:28 PM
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You guys are thinking too much again!

Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122590
12/06/05 09:37 AM
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Scott
Read 300.5(D) It is refering to direct buried conductors and cables. This does not apply to service conductors or laterals in conduit.

I've never heard of any direct buried cables encased in concrete though.

I agree that UG conductors in general need more attention from the code in regards to protection.


Larry LeVoir
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Re: Scope of 300.5 (D) (3) #122591
12/06/05 01:54 PM
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It also doesn't make any sense that this only applies to condutors installed in a trench, not those installed by directional boring.
Don


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