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#114674 - 06/06/03 09:32 PM No Bender Needed...??  
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#114675 - 06/07/03 12:49 AM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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This install is a real shocker!!.
Them conduit bends look like they were done by a Boy on his first day on the job.
One word would sum this job up: Shoddy.


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#114676 - 06/07/03 01:29 AM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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You take your pipe and lean it against the curb. Then you take your truck and run over it a few times.

If bend is not sharp enough, finish the job off by hand.

Presto.

We don't need no stinkin' pipe bender!!


#114677 - 06/07/03 06:53 AM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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Ah yea...roll that paper back down, I didn't see nuthin'


#114678 - 06/07/03 08:37 AM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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Sven, Electricmanscott,
I would be absolutely ASHAMED to have anything to do with a job this rough.
The "person" that performed this trick, couldn't even be bothered to fix the top box to the wall.
It looks like this is in an Auto-parts place or a garage, judging by the tyres and the mag wheel.
I would give it a 1 out of 10, the only saving grace, is that they ran the wires INSIDE the conduit!.


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#114679 - 06/07/03 09:06 AM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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Pardon my bad picture that follows, but I'd guess from the info given and the photo that the conduit once went straight across from left to right (red line) and it was simply bent out of the way for an opening that was cut there (blue line) and later closed up again.

Bill

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#114680 - 06/07/03 10:35 AM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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By The Way, Trumpy,
That....... junque you see on the walls is EMT. When I came in the trade, it was only available in 1/2 through 2" and NO credible electrician would use it. It is now available in 6" (though over 4" is rare).

A few years later, because of cost savings we were all using it. When we used rigid (No IMC at that point either) other trades had to move for us, boy did that change.

See the problem? any twit can just bend it outta his way, and it often looks just plain sloppy. The couplings and connectors (double headed, and single headed come togethers [Linked Image] ) are either steel or die-cast, guess which is cheaper and which most people use, and break rather easily, and this is what many people still use as the equipment grounding conductor.

SWEET, eh?

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#114681 - 06/07/03 06:44 PM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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Bill, you're exactly right!
The old tenant of this small industrial space made himself a mezzanine. I guess this EMT just got in his way.
A management company customer of mine had me go through this 15 tenant building a couple of years ago, to look for hazards.
I was never allowed access to this space, although I made 7 or 8 appointments...wonder why...One can only imagine how the "addition" was wired...S


#114682 - 06/09/03 07:13 AM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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Hey George,
From what I hear, our "senior members" (and I say so respectfully) did not even refer to EMT as "conduit".
True?

BTW,
These "bends" must have been made with the "Erickson Long-radius Bender"s cousin, the "VERY short-radius bender".

[This message has been edited by Redsy (edited 06-09-2003).]


#114683 - 06/09/03 01:43 PM Re: No Bender Needed...??  
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Roger that Redsy, I still refer to it as "tubing" refusing to call it conduit.

Long ago I got over the animosity towards it, and because of inductance reasons actually prefer PVC where it can be used, but still find myself thinking of that "stuff" as second rate at best.


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