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#110973 - 08/14/06 11:41 PM Service in Garage  
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#110974 - 08/15/06 12:36 AM Re: Service in Garage  
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It looks more like a carport, with no garage door. Still...


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#110975 - 08/15/06 05:34 PM Re: Service in Garage  
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#110976 - 08/15/06 08:08 PM Re: Service in Garage  
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What kind of nutbar deal is this? Must be a real crowd pleaser when the meter readers come along. And what's with the cock-eyed light by the inside door? Roof too low or the light couldn't be moved down?


#110977 - 08/16/06 08:53 PM Re: Service in Garage  
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I got a few of these up here in 'Jersey'. Usually an un-permitted car port close-in. Interesting that the roof & siding show no signs of 'addition' work.

The leaning fixture was/is probably something that was on the 'Honeydo' list.

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#110978 - 08/17/06 07:14 AM Re: Service in Garage  
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With the advent of remote readers, will accessibility of the meter be a non-issue in the future? (I mean with regards to locked doors and meter reading, not cramped closets and servicibility.)

I can certainly empathize with the homeowner here- they obviously didn't sink much money into that garage, and I doubt they could have afforded to move that meter. Then you get into other NEC issues regarding restriction on SE length and placement of the panel, and all of the sudden, the homeowner has $10k worth of electrical work for a $500 DIY job. Would be so easy to just ignore the problem, especially if you didn't even realize it WAS a problem. In fact, knowing how expensive the problem is, I'd probably have done the exact same thing...


#110979 - 08/17/06 08:14 PM Re: Service in Garage  
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Agreed, it's costly to relocate the service. but.......I'll play devils advocate.

Unprotected (service) conductors within the structure??

Also, how about the pressure vent gizmo on the gas meter??? Nothing like dumping into the structure!

Les: (LK) what do you say? ever seen one of these??

John


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#110980 - 08/17/06 09:15 PM Re: Service in Garage  
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Seriously... how much would anyone charge to do that the right way??? Yank the old meter off the wall, 6X6X4 NEMA 1 pullcan, maybe 30' 1½" EMT and 40'X 3 #2THHN, and a meter/main breaker can (to eliminate the unfused feeder situation) landed on the side of the new garage a couple ground rods and 15' #6 AC and this would be good to go [Linked Image]Hell, you could probably salvage the old riser and feeders if they were really that hard up (I cant tell what condition they're in)
(This garage looks tiny, like Stuart Little might park there [Linked Image] )

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#110981 - 08/18/06 12:29 AM Re: Service in Garage  
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"Unprotected (service) conductors within the structure??"

Another one of those don't worry about the permit jobs, i bet the guy that did it, still thinks he knew what he's doing, the gas vent is good where it is, all the evidence will be gone, the first time the vent dumps!

That job will end up costing them, when they try to sell.


#110982 - 08/18/06 08:31 PM Re: Service in Garage  
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OK, I had 1 of these today. relocated to the left garage wall.

200 amp PSE&G pan; 200 amp rated service
2-1/2" RGC mast, boot, guy wire
200 amp CB main, 3R
40' SER to existing panel.
2 rods; jump water meter & water heater.
80' #4 to street side water main

Job Cost (on permit) $1675.00

John


[This message has been edited by HotLine1 (edited 11-16-2006).]


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