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Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98616
01/23/05 10:48 PM
01/23/05 10:48 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Question: Can you paint the front of a receptacle if you do not get any paint on the contacts?

Answer: No, receptacles are not evaluated with paint on the device.

Following is a quote from UL:

"A receptacle which has been painted other than authorized by the file procedure, for example, "Charlie home owner, etc., would no longer be UL Listed. The introduction of paint, especially on the face of the outlet could reduce spacing or form a tracking either line to line or line to ground."

In addition, to the potential hazards associated with reduced spacing or tracking, it is possible the paint itself could be conductive.

Courtesy: www.nema.org


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
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Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98617
01/24/05 01:02 PM
01/24/05 01:02 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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The manufacturer's association says if you get paint on it you have to replace it, imagine that.
U/L said "receptacles are not evaluated with paint on the device" so they don't know.


Greg Fretwell
Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98618
01/24/05 01:40 PM
01/24/05 01:40 PM
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iwire  Offline
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My own opinion is that this is a non issue.

I find nothing in the UL white book that says we can not paint a receptacle. I have not seen that info in the limited instructions that come with a receptacle.

I also think that this is entirely unenforceable which just makes it a joke.

IMHO there are more important things to worry about. [Linked Image]

Bob


Bob Badger
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Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98619
01/24/05 02:29 PM
01/24/05 02:29 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Take a look at the FAQ's and see the answers given around the country, one of the representatives from Texas is the Chairman of CMP 1 and the other from Massachusetts his alternate, Andre works for UL and Mike is a Midwest Code Guru.

I thought the message here would rattle a few cages, but how does the judge and jury see this issue:

Have fun!
http://www.nema.org/stds/fieldreps/


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98620
01/24/05 05:07 PM
01/24/05 05:07 PM
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George  Offline
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Using that reasoning ...

You cannot paint conduit. Incidental drips are included in painting.

I wonder if they test recepts with the grounds up or down. That would settle that argument once and for all.

Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98621
01/24/05 05:57 PM
01/24/05 05:57 PM
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cpal  Offline
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Joe the link does not appear to offer FAQ at the NEMA site.

Are you certain the URL is correct??


Charlie

Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98622
01/24/05 08:33 PM
01/24/05 08:33 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Charlie:

Look to the upper left of the page and find these links that will take you to the FAQ area.

Field Representative Program
Code Alerts
Field Representatives: Frequently Asked Questions


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98623
01/24/05 09:46 PM
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cpal  Offline
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Thanks Joe

Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98624
01/25/05 07:38 AM
01/25/05 07:38 AM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Non issue?

[Linked Image]


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
Re: Can you paint the front of a receptacle? #98625
01/25/05 08:58 AM
01/25/05 08:58 AM
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Roger  Offline
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Tamper resistant. [Linked Image]

Roger

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