ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion NEC & other Code issues Color Code for GEC in a Main Service Panel

Again, I will stick to my guns, and continue to call it a V I O L A T I O N !

PS: I wonder what the IBEW and NECA and JATC have to say?

Joe,
110.3 has absolutely nothing to do with this issue. Again, you have not provided any code citations to support your position.

Please respond to these questions.
1) Is a grounding electrode conductor an "grounding conductor"?
2) If it is, please tell me how 310.12(C) can be complied with when you are using a color other than green for the GEC?
3) If the GEC is not a "grounding conductor", then what is it?

Don

Again!!


Again, Green or Green With A Yellow Stripe is assigned to be used for identification of the EGC only!!

You are welcomed to cast your vote here:
https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000252.html

[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 03-07-2003).]

Joe,
Please read the words in the sections that you are citing. While they certainly do require the use of green for insulated EGCs, there is nothing in those words that limit the use of green to EGCs. Please show me the words that limit green to equipment grounding conductors only. I don't see those words in my code book. We have to use the words that are actually in the code book, not the ones that we "are sure that are there"!!

Why won't you respond to the questions I have asked about 310.12(C)?

1) Is a grounding electrode conductor an "grounding conductor"?

2) If it is, please tell me how 310.12(C) can be complied with when you are using a color other than green for the GEC?
3) If the GEC is not a "grounding conductor", then what is it?

This will be covered in the 2005 ROP as there is a proposal on this very question. CMP 6 will have to address the color of the GEC and correlate it with the rule in 310.12(C).

IF THE NEC IS USED, THE GROUNDING ELECTRODE CONDUCTOR MUST BE GREEN PER 310.12(C)!!

I think that you are correct that there is a panel statement that says you can't use green for the grounding electrode conductor, but I need to see the code words that support this statement. You can't cite panel statements on a violation notice.

Don

resqcapt19 --

Grounding Conductor, Equipment. The conductor used to connect ... to the grounding electrode conductor.

Grounding Electrode Conductor. The conncetor used to connect ... to the equipment grounding conductor.

It is clear that they are different.

I believe that the code is silent on the color of the GEC. I prefer bare.

Section 310.12(C) has nothing to do with the GEC!

Am i missing something? Grounds can be any color but grn, gray or white.

interesting edits Joe

Strip the darn thing and forget it.
PS I've got some jobs coming up in that jurisdiction...and I'll be sure to test this Always question authority, but sometimes it costs less to just get along with the AHJ.
I really wish I had the time to fight City Hall...S

exactly Scott,
thus the Naked King marches on...