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Figuring log homes... #8223
03/13/02 12:05 AM
03/13/02 12:05 AM
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teeland  Offline OP
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Joined: May 2001
Posts: 4
Hot Springs, AR
Ok guys, I know that prices vary from region to region, but is there some kind of pricing configuration for log homes? Since I have taken over the family business, I have not had the pleasure of billing out a log home. I have had plenty of experience in wiring them, but my father always did the pricing.

On normal residential homes, I charge by the opening and very rarely by the sq. foot. But on a log house, it would seem that the labor cost just can't be accounted for until you are finished, and a square foot estimate would be the best way.

Am I close or just standing out in left feild without a clue? And what are the going rates in your areas. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Figuring log homes... #8224
03/13/02 12:21 AM
03/13/02 12:21 AM
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JMichael  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 60
Norwich, NY, USA
If you are in the Long Island area I would like to assist with the installation. I have seen a log home wired on TV one time. (HomeTime) [Linked Image] It seems there are many many factors to consider when wiring them. I Would like to see one wired up, start to finish.

James

Re: Figuring log homes... #8225
03/13/02 01:25 AM
03/13/02 01:25 AM
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The Watt Doctor  Offline
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Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 435
Mont Belvieu, TX
Mr.t[eeland],
I don't know about log cabins, because I'm an estimator for a commercial/industrial contractor. I will say that I never "square foot" an estimate (unless I'm trying to give the customer a "ballpark" figure). I do a detailed, indexed take off, apply pricing and labor, tax, any quoted materials, profit and overhead, equipment rental, etc., etc., etc.
You would be wise to look into a book by Ed Tyler called "Estimating Electrical Construction". It has information on residential applications that I'm sure would help.
Regards,
Doc


The Watt Doctor
Altura Cogen
Channelview, TX
Re: Figuring log homes... #8226
03/13/02 06:58 AM
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Redsy  Offline
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,056
Bucks County PA
Watt Dr.,

Could you explain your procedure for using the take-off method with a little bit of detail?
From what I know, it is tedious but accurate.



[This message has been edited by Redsy (edited 03-13-2002).]

Re: Figuring log homes... #8227
03/13/02 08:02 AM
03/13/02 08:02 AM
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WARREN1  Offline
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Joined: May 2001
Posts: 176
Greenville, SC, USA
Check out loti.com . They have had some discussions regarding electrical installations. There are also some users on this board that have done log homes.

Re: Figuring log homes... #8228
03/13/02 11:12 AM
03/13/02 11:12 AM
sparky66wv  Offline
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Posts: 2,236
West Virginia
I've wired four "real" log homes, (old wood that cabins are rebuilt from, not these pine lincoln log looking things)...

They've always been T&M, because if you an give them an accurate figure before the job, they'll probably balk at the price.

So for me, it's either T&M or if they insist on an estimate I'll go up to double the cost of wiring a regular home, and let them have sticker shock...

If the logs are drilled before being stacked, that helps immensely, otherwise, be prepared for about three hours per stop.


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