I know all of you who are self employed have probably been dealing with this issue for years. I recently purchased two main breaker square d panels for reasonable price from a large distributor in my area. The General panel had all the breakers I needed. The HVAC panel, when I ordered it I only new the one size circuit I needed. Now the panels are installed and I have the rest of the circuits, and I need to buy the breakers. THE BREAKERS COST MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL PANEL WITH A MAIN!!! They are telling me it would be cheaper to buy a new panel with the breakers in it. I am tired of this crap. This is what happens with lack of competition.
They do that on purpose, they know full well they can charge you whatever the hell they want to once you've bolted that panel to the wall and make money hand over fist. So, whatever they can do to get you to buy THEIR panel is what goes... Competition is what created this situation. Otherwise, the bundled panel with breakers would be just outragous.
#72425 - 11/29/0609:06 AMRe: Manufacturers are Criminals
This has been a common gear manufacturer model for many years.
1) Next time buy extra breakers with the panel, if you think you will need them. 2) Always save loose breakers you come across. 3) If you build a shell building, order your panels full of breakers then keep the breakers and leave the panels empty. When the finish-out contracts go out, you will have an advantage in bidding because you already have the breakers everyone else will have buy and add to their bids. 4) On big contracts set up a purchase agreement in the PO for loose spare breakers for that contact only.
This is just how this business works. If you want to talk about who the real con artists are, try to get unit prices on light fixtures.
[This message has been edited by ITO (edited 11-29-2006).]
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#72426 - 11/29/0610:56 AMRe: Manufacturers are Criminals
For sure, anyone who has been buying factory assembled panels knows to fill them up with spares. I usually pull a breaker or two out of each panelboard if possible so that I have a nice collection on the shelf in my shop.
Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
#72428 - 11/29/0605:20 PMRe: Manufacturers are Criminals