ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
sec cable code conflict
by HotLine1. 11/20/18 03:08 PM
This anti-theist is priceless!!!
by Texas_Ranger. 11/17/18 02:15 PM
High current GFI vs regular GFCI
by Texas_Ranger. 11/17/18 02:07 PM
Single phase and what you call it.
by dsk. 11/12/18 11:10 AM
New in the Gallery:
What is this for?
Plug terminals
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 28 guests, and 23 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Turning off a tenants power! #6738
01/08/02 10:59 AM
01/08/02 10:59 AM
A
ayrton  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 201
Pa
A customer of mine owns commercial spaces and has a tenant which filed for bankruptcy.
The owner pays the electric. I was asked by the owner to look into finding a way to turn off the office lighting in these spaces after work hrs (5pm) in order to save money. Obviously in this case the tenant owes the owner for utilities already. What would be the ramifications for doing this? I know that in a dwelling I could not do this.
But this is not a dwelling.
I explained to the owner that this is somewhat complicated because in order to 'time' the lighting we would be affecting the receptacles and more importantly the egress lighting. Is this legal? Any suggestions?

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Re: Turning off a tenants power! #6739
01/08/02 12:32 PM
01/08/02 12:32 PM
G
ggardiner  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 81
Calgary, Alberta Canada
I'd contact the local authorities before doing anything like that. I know it is illegal in many places to interrupt power supplies to a building without the owner and tenants permission except in emergencies. The trusty in the bankruptcy might be willing to guaranty the utility bill for the landlord and solve the whole problem. I know under certain bylaws in various areas the landlord is protected under the bankruptcy act and can get his money back first might be worth looking into

Re: Turning off a tenants power! #6740
01/08/02 06:01 PM
01/08/02 06:01 PM
A
ayrton  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 201
Pa
It is the owner who wants it done. I don't know how it is in Canada, but here in the States, at least Pa., more times than not you will not get your money. That is why they file, to protect themselves from creditors!
I have spoken to my attorney, The local building inspector was no help, and as far as the local authorities, unless you are talking about the township (building and planning)
they have nothing to do with it.

Re: Turning off a tenants power! #6741
01/08/02 06:52 PM
01/08/02 06:52 PM
A
Anonymous
Unregistered

A friend of mine had a similar problem to this with a tenant. They had asked me to pull the meter base, at which I refused. I suggested that he consult the power company. The power company agreed to remove the meter base and disconnect the service. I am not sure if that is helpful at all. I thought that decision was better left in the hands of the owner and the PoCo. It was their money afterall, not mine.

Re: Turning off a tenants power! #6742
01/08/02 08:39 PM
01/08/02 08:39 PM
B
brownbagg  Offline
Junior Member
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5
Mobile Al usa
just don,t pay the power bill and let the power company do it. If tentant ask why, no rent money did not enough cash to pay power bill


brownbagg@hotmail.com
Re: Turning off a tenants power! #6743
01/09/02 08:42 AM
01/09/02 08:42 AM
T
Tiffany Sparks  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 77
Iron River, Wi USA
Another silly question from the peanut gallery here.........
Evict the non paying tenant? And replace em with a paying one?
Might solve the issue of getting the rent and the utilities paid.......

Tiff

Re: Turning off a tenants power! #6744
01/09/02 02:39 PM
01/09/02 02:39 PM
A
ayrton  Offline OP
Member
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 201
Pa
In responding to Tiffany, you just can't evict people, The law protects them!!

Re: Turning off a tenants power! #6745
01/10/02 09:04 PM
01/10/02 09:04 PM
Bill Addiss  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,903
NY, USA
I had an interesting twist on this where a non-paying tenant in a garage apartment kept turning off the Landlord's circuits. (The panelboard was in the Apartment) The owner had to call police to escort a Licensed Electrian (me) into the apartment to turn the breakers back on. It was an interesting situation to say the least. It kinda reminded me of that movie 'Pacific Heights'

Bill


Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
Lostazhell
Lostazhell
Bakersfield, CA (Originally Orange Co.)
Posts: 1,431
Joined: February 2004
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Admin 7
Popular Topics(Views)
251,650 Are you busy
188,789 Re: Forum
178,503 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.025s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 0.9920 MB (Peak: 1.1506 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2018-11-21 06:38:55 UTC