Existing old ceiling surface light to be replaced with recessed can. I take down the light and look in the box and discover it's a MAJOR junction box. There's no fill violation, but it's right at the limit with two difference circuits branching off in there. The junction boxes attached to the cans are completely undersized for this. I think this is a 'no-go'.
editorial note: I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'm pretty much a bookworm electrician. I do a lot better work than some lifers I've seen, but because I've had very little time with a master sparky I'm sure I do a lot of things the hard way. Not having the benefit of years of experience. Now that California has mandated the licensing, my time is up. I have no where near the required apprentice hours necessary for the test.
Around here they consider the space above a recessed can as accessible (assuming you can get to it by removing the trim only). If it's an IC can you may be out of luck. We split up the jbox into 2 ... and charge accordingly
Re: Old work- recessed light big problemo#61713 02/01/0604:08 PM02/01/0604:08 PM
The location is a stairway landing in between floors. There is a good 11 inches of depth there. No insulation. I'll check the NEC tonight to see if a remodel can opening is accessible. If you can only get one arm through the hole is that accessible?
Installing a j-box through that opening is going to be a little proctological.
Re: Old work- recessed light big problemo#61716 02/01/0607:04 PM02/01/0607:04 PM
Besides the J-box in the can hole idea you have another option. Put a finish blank on the cieling box, Cut the can near by, and wip off the box to the can. If the blank is painted the same as the cielinf it does not look that bad.
Re: Old work- recessed light big problemo#61717 02/01/0611:29 PM02/01/0611:29 PM
I'll probably take some heat for this, but...if you are using a remodel type fixture, then the j-box of the fixture is accessed only by removing the recessed fixture. So I don't see a problem if you put another j-box in the ceiling accessible thru the same hole. However, I did see a UL listing once on Lightolier recessed fixtures that said if the hole was not at least 6" in diameter, it would not be listed for "feed-thru" wiring; i.e. you couldn't use that hole for the large j-box if the recessed light is less than 6". The 1100 series takes a 6 5/8" hole. (And Lightolier 1000 series, 5", and 2000 series, 3 3/4", are labeled suitable for feed-thru wiring, but they're not unless there is access from above!)