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Old Work Question #50527
04/05/05 09:03 AM
04/05/05 09:03 AM
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JFLS41  Offline OP
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Lower Burrell, PA
How do you comply with the code (314.17cx)when your installing a plastic device box in a concealed wall. I am not aware of a cable clamp for these types of boxes and how are you going to secure the romex 8 inches inside the wall? Is there a staple gun big enough for this? How do others handle comply with this?

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Re: Old Work Question #50528
04/05/05 09:47 AM
04/05/05 09:47 AM
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BobH  Offline
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Newfane, N.Y USA
Old work that is "fished" is considered supported. There are old work boxes available with integral clamps. I've used the plastic boxes and have never had an objection.

Re: Old Work Question #50529
04/05/05 11:10 AM
04/05/05 11:10 AM
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JFLS41  Offline OP
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Lower Burrell, PA
What about a light switch 48" from floor and you use a box with the built in clamp, your still required to have cable stapled to stud aren't you?

Re: Old Work Question #50530
04/05/05 02:51 PM
04/05/05 02:51 PM
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BobH  Offline
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Newfane, N.Y USA
Not if it's old work and cable was fished.

Re: Old Work Question #50531
04/05/05 07:35 PM
04/05/05 07:35 PM
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Electric Ian  Offline
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MA, USA
See 334.30(B)(1)

Re: Old Work Question #50532
04/05/05 09:45 PM
04/05/05 09:45 PM
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JFLS41  Offline OP
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Lower Burrell, PA
Thanks, I looked for a while trying to find a code that dealt with this issue and couldn't find anything. Whats the secret to locating applicable codes for a given situation?

Re: Old Work Question #50533
04/05/05 10:12 PM
04/05/05 10:12 PM
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Electric Ian  Offline
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MA, USA
No secret. 600+ hours of code classes and a couple decades of referencing the book helps though.

Re: Old Work Question #50534
04/05/05 10:15 PM
04/05/05 10:15 PM
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e57  Offline
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S.F.,CA USA
"Whats the secret to locating applicable codes for a given situation?"

How much time you got?

Seachable CD works well.... And those memorable "wake-up calls" from inspections that went bad when I started out.


Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
Re: Old Work Question #50535
04/06/05 12:09 AM
04/06/05 12:09 AM
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DougW  Offline
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Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,143
North Chicago, IL
Four little words...

National Electrical Code Handbook.

It's the full text of the Code, with additional info giving examples and explanations of many of the FPN's.

It's not cheap...but it's worth every penny.

(Actually, buying the "pocket" Code book and the Handbook at the same time saves about 15% over separate purchase price.) [Linked Image]

Re: Old Work Question #50536
04/06/05 12:47 AM
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highvoltageguy  Offline
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Posts: 53
Silt, Colorado, USA
huh, didnt you have to take a test for lic.? and renew it every couple of years? I fint reading the post on here and looking up the question in the code book something to do, and dont just stop at first thing you find unless you all ready pretty postive from exsperience, keep looking for exceptions!!!

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