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#49823 03/18/05 08:19 PM
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Hi,
How do you all make those Quotes like that? do you do it manually or what? I havent noticed a tool for that..

quote:
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BLAH BLAH BLAH
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mine dont turn out with the horizontal line..


-regards

greg



[This message has been edited by mustangelectric (edited 03-18-2005).]

#49824 03/18/05 08:42 PM
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Greg, to quote some one do this, first highlite the sentence or paragraph you need then go to edit and copy, you can also right click. Then type including brackets [QOTE] and add the "U" at this point paste your field then type [/ qote] put the "U" in and this will post the field as a quote


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mine dont turn out with the horizontal line..

Roger



[This message has been edited by Roger (edited 03-18-2005).]

#49825 03/18/05 10:49 PM
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Just for the record, I would not run diagonally but it certainly is legal.

#49826 03/18/05 11:14 PM
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You may have to install it on a runner(2x6 on flat) if its in an area where it could be stepped on or otherwise damaged, but that might depend on what your inspector finds acceptable.

#49827 03/18/05 11:55 PM
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I would have to agree with Rich. The code calls for the first disconnect to be either outside the building or the inside nearest point of entrance of the service conductors. I don't see how 50 ft would possibly be the nearest point of entrance.

#49828 03/19/05 06:12 AM
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Hi Greg

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Hi,
You said: "4 wire service entrance cable"..

Is this a residence or what? If it is a residential application...you do not need a 4 wire cable...you need an SE cable which has two insulated conductors in it and a bare neutral..

a ser cable has four..two hots, neut, and grnd..this is for feeding sub panels..

If he is going inside 50' the panel he is heading to must be a 'sub panel'. There would have to be a service disconnect previous to that 50' run.

Can you think of a code complaint way to feed a panel 50' inside a residence with 2 wire SE?

Bob


Bob Badger
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#49829 03/19/05 08:31 AM
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The original question has gotten all mixed up. (That never happens [Linked Image]) From what small amount of info there is I gather this most likely is the feeder from a main disco running to the panel accross the basement along the underside of the joists and not through them. Hence the "4 wire service entrance cable". If this is the actual case then it is perfectly legal. Some would say it is a hack job but that is matter of opinion. I have a similar run in my own house that was there when I moved in, however the nuts drilled 2" holes in every joist. I'll send in a picture to the photo area.

#49830 03/19/05 09:31 AM
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... Dude,..SER is what,..about a buck a foot?? do it the right way,and go at right angles to your destination... you can always use the piece you already have down the road on another job,..it'll never go to waste..C'mon,make us proud!! [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Russ


[This message has been edited by Attic Rat (edited 03-19-2005).]


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#49831 05/12/05 01:31 AM
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The answer is ..............NO

#49832 05/12/05 01:13 PM
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It has been a long time since I have seen ser cable at a buck a foot, but then again I live out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. I prefer to use ser cable instead of se when installing residential single phase service drops from the point of attachment to the meter socket. I will cut off the bare ground conductor at each end right at the spot where the sheath is opened up to. That way I am using two hots, and an "insulated" neutral conductor. I wonder if others will see fault with this method?.

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