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#4530 09/30/01 09:13 PM
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The trouble is when the wiring done with "expert" advice from the home store is when a fire starts. If the cause is listed as electrical we in the trade suffer a bad reputation. The cause does not list this as wiring done by a pro or homeowner.

#4531 10/01/01 05:19 AM
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Very good point Jim. It's a bit like the people who electrocute themselves I mentioned a while back: The coroner's verdict makes no mention of the fact that might have been doing something incredibly stupid at the time.

#4532 10/07/01 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by pauluk:
The use of a water pipe as a grounding electrode was outlawed by the IEE here as far back as the 1966 edition due to the increasing use of plastic pipes and couplings. Even the 1955 notes state that caution should be used and to check.

According to 250-130(c), it is permissible to do this, I have always thought it strange because in article 300-3(b)'all conductors of the same circuit and when used grounded and equipment grounding conductor shall be ccontained in the same raceway.
250-130(c) for Nongrounding receptalce replacement or brancch circuit extension, they list 3 conditions, most telling is no.3 which says, An equipment grounding conductor is connected between the receptacle grounding terminal and any accessible point on the grounding electrode system, ergo the water pipe. which is tied back to the panel by the electrode grounding conductor.

#4533 10/08/01 11:37 AM
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According to the Hubbell catalog, specifications for their GFCI Industrial grade receptacle is:
Trip Level 4 to 6 ma
Trip Time 0.025 sec. Nominal
Max. Interrupting Cap. 2000A.
Op. Temp. -30Deg. F to 150Deg F
Max. Humidity 95%
More than you asked for, but important info to know, if needed.
If you buy a GFCI from the local hardware store, then check the box for specifications. If not on the box or the dealer doesn't have a cut sheet, then don't buy it.

#4534 10/08/01 11:26 PM
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Warren,

Thanks!
0.025 sec is quicker than I thought, that's about 1 1/2 cycles right?

I wonder what the minimum/maximum permissible Trip Time would be as per standards?

Bill


Bill
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