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... I guess I've been fortunate,..I've never been called on it, and we do alot of A/C installs come spring...
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The conductors in most NM cable are not individually marked with their type. Just because they look like THHN/THWN doesn’t mean they are. They are not listed for installation in a raceway. If you install conductors that are only listed as THHN in a wet location it would be a violation. I have never seen THHN conductors that are not also listed as THWN.
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Targetshooter, Keep watching this forum, and you can learn a lot. Beat to your own drum, and you'll only learn from your own mistakes.
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... Looks like I'm gonna be buying THWN, from now on...Does it come stranded,in 250' spools?? AR
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granted, i dont post here regulary. i get too frustrated with things like this, so i avoid contact with most anything having to do with the trade so as to avoid blood pressure issues. after 15 years in business i've decided i'm no longer cut-out for it.
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...Ok, here's a dopey,but honest question...if you don't "strip' the wire,and instead just sleeve it from your disconnect to the compressor, is it still a violation...reason I'm asking this, is cuz,I usually run, say,..#10 romex,(if the unit is a 3 ton), in the basement,pop out to the back of my disconnect, and sleeve a 4-or 5' piece, to wire my compressor with... AR
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yes it is. the jacket and paper can retain moisture. which makes sense, which begs the question, why is it in the code in the first place?
most of my years in business have been spent wiring heating and cooling equipment. in all this time we violated this section thousands of times but most inspectors understand how idiotic it is, or werent aware of it, so they overlook it.
now, 2 days ago i told a homeowner that their new replacement ac had an undersized circuit, and of course, it passed inspection anyhow.
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Nevermind
[This message has been edited by Ryan_J (edited 02-20-2004).]
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i agree with your original statement. i cant even stand to be around myself anymore.
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Targetshootr, all due respect, I have read this thread three times now, and I don't see the problem. The code is the code, and you can have a say in changing it if you choose to.
BTW, ITE is Siemens now.
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