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A made-up,live panel is an invitation for carpenters to flip breakers. No matter how many signs you put on it. [This message has been edited by ga.sparky56 (edited 12-21-2003).]
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I like that answer Sparkey. It makes the other guys treat your stuff with a little respect. I'll have to remember that for next time. LOL
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A hot 277 lighting circuit makes absolute hash out of a taper's knife. They always want the lights on, most inspectors allow it, and we shouldn't shock the other trades. Darned if we do, and Darned if we don't...S
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A made-up,live panel is an invitation for carpenters to flip breakers. No matter how many signs you put on it. oh yes, ga.sparky56. i've come to two avenues with this one... a) place an orange 77 on the hots just before entering breakers, and visit the panel for connection repeatedly througout the job or.. b) use a small means of id for circuits that are ok to be on, i use a small magic marker 'dot' alongside my panel sched. being confronted one can alwyas point out said 'dot' system , and those circuits activated by meddling hands... just a little bit, just a little bit... fla sparkey
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.."if it ain't fixed,don't break it...call a Licensed Electrician"
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Good ideas Sparky. The marker system would seem a better choice for me since my panel directories frequently get ground into the floor,or thrown away.
Russell
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We usually do jobs in buildings that are mostly metal studs and beams.
If someone from another trade makes me mad, I look at them with a smile and say, "If I were you I wouldn't touch anything metal."
We usually have a good laugh and I usually don't have any more trouble.
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I think someone misread me , I almost never ever heat up any job until I get my final and I am outa there.(this policy has caused me alot of grief from varioius general contractors). What I do hear on occasion is another contractor on another jobsite left hot wires exposed and somebody got hit with it.
My jobs have gfci temporary outlets mounted on a temp pole or at the existing service if it is a retrofit. All existing interior wiring gets disconnected at the main disconect by removing and taping from the main. Framers and Masons all seem to carry extension cords, but its suprising how finish guys seem to pretend an extension cord run to the inside of the job is beyond their company's budget. And yes they will pull out whatever breaker tags you install and just flip breakers on when you are not there.
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well that would be the optimum approach in a perfect world macmikeman, and i shant argue it with you save to say i'd dearly like to apply for a visa to it...
many of us in the real world pigtail out and spark up what is useful long before trim out, and need entrust this to Joe bag-o-donuts & company
sometimes to lead other trades into believing something is hot (when it's really not) via subtle insinuation pays off handsomely
better profits through fear eh? , whoda thunk it? ~S~
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Any living creature gets bit on one of my jobs it is my respnsibility. It is my responsibility to protect these idiots. Just ask God or my insurance agent. Merry Christmas everyone! Bob
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