ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

>> Home   >> Electrical-Photos   >> Classifieds   >> Subscribe to Newsletter   >> Store  
 

Featured:

 Electrical
 Clearance

 *
 Tools
 *

 Books

 *

 Test Equipment

 

Recent Gallery Topics:
What in Tarnation?
What in Tarnation?
by timmp, September 10
Plumber meets Electrician
Plumber meets Electrician
by timmp, September 10
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 337 guests, and 21 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#222864 06/20/25 10:18 AM
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 37
G
Member
This showed up on Facebook with someone suggesting it was a good way to add a bathroom to a utility room.

[Linked Image from gfretwell.com]

Last edited by gfretwell; 06/20/25 10:19 AM.

Greg Fretwell
Insulated Tools for Electricians

Insulated Tools for Electricians, Installers & Maintenance Technicians

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,517
Likes: 1
T
Member
Don't know about the US but from my local perspective I can't really see anything explicitly non-compliant. Safe zones are only required for showers and baths, not sinks or toilets.

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,036
Likes: 37
G
Member
The most glaring violation is working space around those panels but you are are dealing with "foreign systems" and the fact that over current devices are not allowed in bathrooms.


Greg Fretwell
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,482
Likes: 3
Cat Servant
Member
Look at the bright side: At least they didn't the GEC (ground the service) to the plastic pipe!
Now, just to play devils' advocate:
I see concrete walls, suggesting this toilet in the basement. Many older homes have a simple toilet and sink placed openly in the basement - without any privacy walls whatever. These toilets are a carryover from the times where guys would return home from horribly dirty work and change out of their work clothes before ever entering the house.
Without defining walls, can you fairly claim the entire basement is a "bathroom?" That seems absurd.

Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 16
T
Member
Yeah definitely would be a working space violation NEC 110.26, as far as being in a bathroom that ban in 240.24(E) was only dwelling unit bathrooms, until recently when it was expanded, while the working space requirement makes sense,
I am not so sure the addition of the commercial bathroom (with no shower) improves safety.
I there is a chain convenience stores that ad all their electrical panels in the bathrooms as there was ample working space, did not tend to get cluttered, and the room was normally locked from the public.
Now they put the panels in the store and roll a fridge case in front of them LOL
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
Don't know about the US but from my local perspective I can't really see anything explicitly non-compliant. Safe zones are only required for showers and baths, not sinks or toilets.

I am sure across the pond BS 7671: 132.12 and IEC 60364-5-52 would say something that install also? Can you have a 'consumer unit' (aka load-center) in a lavatory?

Last edited by tortuga; Yesterday at 03:07 PM.

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5