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#218511 - 05/24/17 12:31 PM 210.70 / Wall Switch / When adopted?  
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I need some help verifying when a specific code section was adopted. Specifically, I am trying to find out when the requirement to have a wall switched light or outlet were adopted under 210.70.

I tried looking on-line for older versions of the NEC but didn't have much luck... and I need the written reference to settle a disagreement among "professionals".

Thanks for any pointers.


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#218512 - 05/24/17 12:43 PM Re: 210.70 / Wall Switch / When adopted? [Re: JimL]  
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Before my time. It exists in the 75 code, oldest one I have as 210-26. In 1990 they made it 210.70 and in 93 they added the garage door.


Greg Fretwell

#218513 - 05/24/17 05:04 PM Re: 210.70 / Wall Switch / When adopted? [Re: gfretwell]  
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Greg:

Thanks, that's enough for me then. The issue would be predating early 80's here... 1975 would cover that.


#218514 - 05/24/17 06:20 PM Re: 210.70 / Wall Switch / When adopted? [Re: JimL]  
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Greg:
I'll check if I have any NECs before '75 when I get to the office tomorrow.

From my younger days, I know we always did a switch controlled lighting outlet in resi. Back to mid '60s, but I don't know if it was 'code' or part of the jobs.


John

#218516 - 05/24/17 09:18 PM Re: 210.70 / Wall Switch / When adopted? [Re: JimL]  
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I lived most of my early childhood (age 6-19) in a house built for us in 1953 and we had switched lighting outlets in every room but it was built to "GI Bill" standards in DC where that meant something. We even had a breaker panel and grounded Romex. (fiber jacket 16ga ground). One of my first electrical projects was helping my dad switching all of the receptacles from 1-15 to 5-15, using that 16ga grounding wire. They were even polite enough to leave enough pigtailed in the box to hook up the 5-15 although it wasn't the full 6".
Somebody at work gave him a couple boxes of them before they were really known by most people in the country. The Navy was supposed to evaluate them. We had 5-15s long before we had anything to plug in them smile


Greg Fretwell

#218632 - 07/15/17 09:08 PM Re: 210.70 / Wall Switch / When adopted? [Re: gfretwell]  
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Originally Posted by gfretwell
I lived most of my early childhood (age 6-19) in a house built for us in 1953 and we had switched lighting outlets in every room but it was built to "GI Bill" standards in DC where that meant something. We even had a breaker panel and grounded Romex. (fiber jacket 16ga ground). One of my first electrical projects was helping my dad switching all of the receptacles from 1-15 to 5-15, using that 16ga grounding wire. They were even polite enough to leave enough pigtailed in the box to hook up the 5-15 although it wasn't the full 6".
Somebody at work gave him a couple boxes of them before they were really known by most people in the country. The Navy was supposed to evaluate them. We had 5-15s long before we had anything to plug in them smile



The house I grew up in, in Santa Ana, CA, sounds very similar, right down to the 16 AWG grounded romex (Actually it was a funky shimmery green sheathed "Paranite - Parasyn" Built in 1958, There were P&S 5-15 outlets in the bathrooms, laundry, kitchen and garage, using metal boxes and the "stove bolt". Everywhere else, the grounds were simply crimped together. I broke the crimps and added a pigtail and new crimp when I changed out all the 1-15s (and 2-15's which were at all the half hot locations in the bedrooms and living room.) to 5-15 Decora's. My grandmother thought she was highfalutin with her new 3 prong Decora outlets laugh


#218633 - 07/16/17 11:25 AM Re: 210.70 / Wall Switch / When adopted? [Re: JimL]  
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Just an FYI, I still come upon a few houses that have 1-15 receptacles. I told the resi CCO inspectors that do 'resales' to judge the 'age' of the house/basement, to use this as a tool.


John


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