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Tel lines for fire alarm monitoring
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04/18/12 06:42 PM
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Is there an issue with telephone lines by other than the regular analog telephone provider when used for fire alarm monitoring (DACT) connections? For example lines provided by Verizon or Time Warner?
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Re: Tel lines for fire alarm monitoring
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04/18/12 08:21 PM
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Primary line must be a wired land line and can't be shared or seized by anything else. Secondary can be VOIP, and can be shared. Provider doesnt matter as long as there is a number that isn't shared or seized by anything else.
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Re: Tel lines for fire alarm monitoring
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04/19/12 02:10 PM
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The question was based on the concern that Time warner may convert the signel to digital (not my concern).
But since you brought it up - I was not aware that the primary line could not be shared by anything else. Not even a fax machine? Security system? Elevator call out?
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Re: Tel lines for fire alarm monitoring
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04/19/12 07:32 PM
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Since few have the alarm code, perhaps we might post the section, let us see the words?
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Re: Tel lines for fire alarm monitoring
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04/20/12 03:27 AM
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6. Can non‐traditional telephone service be used with a digital alarm communicator system? Yes, if the service is provided through a managed facilities‐based voice network (MFVN). NFPA 72 addresses several means of transmitting alarm and other signals from a fire alarm system at a protected premise to a supervising station. The most widely used means is a digital alarm communicator system. These systems use a digital alarm communicator transmitter (DACT) connected through two transmission channels. The Code requires the primary channel to be a telephone line. The secondary channel can be a second telephone line, or one of 6 other transmission means. With respect to the telephone line(s), the Code requires in 26.6.3.2.1.1 that the DACT be connected to the public switched telephone network upstream of any private telephone system at the protected premise. It also requires that the connection be to a loop start telephone circuit. Historically, this meant connection to the copper conductors of a plain old telephone system (POTS) traditionally provided by the telephone company. In recent years, providers of telephone service other than the traditional POTS service have become more common. The 2010 edition of the Code includes revisions to address the use of these non‐traditional types of telephone service. The 2010 edition of NFPA 72 includes the following revised the definition of a public switched telephone network and a new definition of managed facilities‐based voice networks:  Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN). An assembly of communications equipment and telephone service providers that utilize managed facilities‐based voice networks (MFVN) to provide the general public with the ability to establish communications channels via discrete dialing codes.  Managed Facilities‐Based Voice Network (MFVN). A physical facilities‐based network capable of transmitting real time signals with formats unchanged that is managed, operated, and maintained by the service provider to ensure service quality and reliability from the subscriber location to public switched telephone network (PSTN) interconnection points or other MFVN peer networks. The Code contains extensive explanatory annex information related to what is expected of a MFVN. It is important to recognize that telephone service that that is not provided through a physical facilities‐based network would not be covered under this definition. It is also important to understand that the telephone service provider’s communications equipment is expected to provide 8 hours of standby power for equipment installed on the premises or located in the field. This is in contrast to the 24 hours of secondary power required for the fire alarm system itself, including the DACT. Those using or enforcing earlier editions of the Code will find the revisions in the 2010 edition of NFPA 72 useful in understanding the capabilities and performance expected for the communication pathways used in conjunction with digital alarm communicator systems.
Last edited by leland; 04/20/12 03:30 AM.
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