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#203916 10/31/11 09:41 AM
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Had the first two (2) electric car chargers to inspect today.

Seems like PSE&G is starting with two chargers at the Conference & Training Ctr. Cars are supposed to be Chev. Volts.



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We'll be putting in 8 stations on an upcoming military project in conjunction with 640kW of carport PV. From what I've seen so far there's several turnkey charging stations available now.

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We just had a Nissan Dealer move into town this week. Should be interesting how many chargers they want to install. It's not a new bldg; 6=7 year old, former Volvo dealer moved out.



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I got this in Email the other day

From: Fecteau, Jeffrey [mailto:Jeffrey.Fecteau@ul.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Leviton and Ford Receive UL Certification for EV Home Charging Station

Fully charging a Ford Focus Electricís battery in a little over three hours, more than four times faster than the standard portable charger.

http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=41916&minisite=10026


Jeffrey A. Fecteau CBO, ECO

Lead Regulatory Engineer



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Ahh, there seems to be an all electric Ford Focus on the ear horizon??


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Yep I guess electric cars will be all the rage until people actually run the numbers and until the states start taxing car chargers to get their road tax back.


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As an electrician I should be enamored with electric cars...

But, they can't pencil out, EVER.

Natural gas is most efficiently burned right in the vehicle rather than at a distant power plant with all of the conversion losses.

Since natural gas prices are cratering...

And America is now the world's largest producer...

And, apparently, has the worlds largest reserves...

Methane burning hybrids are going to beat out any EV ever designed.

EV's make sense for Hawaii and the Virgin Islands.

But when you go north, they stink. Cold ruins battery performance across the board. Without waste heat from our Otto Cycle engines how do we stay warm?

EV's make the most sense in the third world. That is if they could afford them.

BTW, they'll need noise makers. EV's and hybrids are SO quiet that they've become traffic hazards -- especially to the blind. Yeah, they're THAT quiet!



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I have to agree with tesla on this..."BTW, they'll need noise makers. EV's and hybrids are SO quiet that they've become traffic hazards -- especially to the blind. Yeah, they're THAT quiet!"

My Twp car is a Prius, and we also have a few escape Hybrids....they are quiet!


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Realistically though the sound emitted is irrelevant since half the pedestrians ae on the phone while walking and the other half are listening to their MP3 player so they're not going to hear the Mack truck OR Electric car that hits them.......

How many times have you seen someone walk right into an intersection against a red light while they were on the phone or listening to their MP3?

I still remember my sisters '85 CRX with the 1.3 liter engine that I would borrow for long trips. It would routinely get 65-71 mpg on regular unleaded, I could drive from San Diego to Phoenix and back for less than $15 all in one day while cruising at 80 mph to boot.

I'd like to see a hybrid or electric do that!

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Vin:

Best I can tell ya is the Prius has 38.4 MPG on the dash computer. All city driving, 25k miles on the odo.

My personal Civic gets 35-36 MPG, 90% highway (Commute). (55 k on the odo.)



John
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