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Work for free #202052
07/14/11 12:08 AM
07/14/11 12:08 AM
schenimann  Offline OP
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 193
Western North Carolina
Quoting, invoicing, and collecting! What a hassle. I just enjoy working.

I wish I could make a living working for free.

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Re: Work for free [Re: schenimann] #202055
07/14/11 08:59 AM
07/14/11 08:59 AM
wire_twister  Offline
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 265
Georgia USA
Im with ya! When we started in business I told my partner if he kept abreast of code and AHJ issues I would take care of the business end, he got the better deal!! I bet I work 5 to 10 hours a week in the office after the 40 to 60 in the field.


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Re: Work for free [Re: schenimann] #202056
07/14/11 10:11 AM
07/14/11 10:11 AM
HotLine1  Offline

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 6,936
Brick, NJ USA
That's all part of being in 'business'!

Been there, done that. Many a night pushing paper.

Re: Work for free [Re: schenimann] #202062
07/14/11 01:27 PM
07/14/11 01:27 PM
gfretwell  Offline

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,186
My wife's electrician frequently "works for free golf". Does that count? wink

John is right. The "business part" is the most important part of any business. The difference between a business and a hobby is how well you collect the money.

If I was starting out today I would have some kind of integration between a smart phone and my desk top computer so I could be accounting for every minute of my day and every part I used that could be reconciled and billed out of my computer. You could also use that to dispatch your calls and track your response numbers. (call customer, on site, cycle time etc)
We did this at IBM in the 80s using the Motorola Portable Terminal (the precursor to the blackberry)
so I know how well it can work.
I am not sure who offers the package but I have to believe it is out there.

Greg Fretwell
Re: Work for free [Re: schenimann] #202065
07/14/11 03:22 PM
07/14/11 03:22 PM
renosteinke  Offline
Cat Servant
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
I suggest the OP visit the business forum- where he can find many folks who claim to be working for free. smile

Re: Work for free [Re: schenimann] #202078
07/15/11 09:38 AM
07/15/11 09:38 AM
harold endean  Offline
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,233
Boonton, NJ
When I was in business, my brother went to work part time for me. He dealt with all of the paper and bookwork that the business needed. I dealt with the codes, and pricing of the jobs and running the man power. That seemed to work very well.


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