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No spares... yer hooped #199703
03/05/11 05:50 AM
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pooL8  Offline OP
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What would you do if a residential customer wanted an new 120V dedicated circuit but panel is full?..... of tandems.

Pretend they don't want any added/upgraded panels.




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Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8] #199704
03/05/11 08:13 AM
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Walk away.... fast!!!


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Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8] #199706
03/05/11 11:03 AM
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twh  Offline
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Can you pull two circuits out of the panel and combine them into one circuit?

Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8] #199710
03/05/11 03:44 PM
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Subpanel ??? This is always a problem in older houses with a kitchen reno.
things like mircrowave hood combos dish washers that were hacked into the laundry plug in the basement, fridge relocate new counters that need more counter plugs now etc.

Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: wire_twister] #199718
03/05/11 08:55 PM
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pooL8  Offline OP
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laugh ... Ya...

If you stay reallllly still, they might forget...
then you can steal all their cookies!

Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: twh] #199719
03/05/11 08:56 PM
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pooL8  Offline OP
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You can...

This isn't a real situation for me... just gettin some input.

It's a good idea, load permitting ofcourse.

Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8] #199721
03/06/11 01:14 AM
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twh  Offline
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Oh, its a hypothetical question. Run an extension cord to the neighbor's separate circuit outside plug. No one ever tripped over a hypothetical extension cord.

Actually, this problem comes up a lot. It's the reason the DIY stores sell SJ cord by the foot.

Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: twh] #199727
03/06/11 08:34 AM
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pooL8  Offline OP
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smile

Ya it does come up a lot.

Can't really win either way... I mean it can be safe, especially if you fed the 2 circuits with a #12 (or #10 if it's an FP panel)
But running away is a little nicer for the pains.

Though I still raise an eyebrow when I dedicate a dining room plug. I can't remember anyone using it for something other than a lamp or phone, if anything.

Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8] #199743
03/06/11 07:42 PM
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I would say you can't answer this question without a load calculation.


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Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8] #199744
03/06/11 08:20 PM
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twh  Offline
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Greg, in Canada we can put 12 outlets on a 15 amp circuit. When a panel is full, sometimes it's because every electrician ran a new feed for every new outlet. Then, we can pull two circuits out and combine them on one 15 amp breaker.

The dining room plug is outdated. I haven't seen a toaster on a dining room table for 30 years.

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