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chemical storage warehouse #193547
04/07/10 03:33 PM
04/07/10 03:33 PM
Niko  Offline OP
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Is chemical storage warehouse considered a corrosive or hazardous environment?
Chemical are not flammable and are stored in sealed containers. The warehouse has exhaust fans that operate 24 hrs a day.

what are your thoughts on this specifically on type of conduit that needs to be installed. I am thinking EMT and regular steel boxes may be O.K. but i like to get your input.

Thank you.


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Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: Niko] #193548
04/07/10 04:08 PM
04/07/10 04:08 PM
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gfretwell  Offline

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You really get your guidance from article 500.
The handbook has tables that define a great number of chemicals as to the various hazards they might present.


Greg Fretwell
Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: Niko] #193550
04/07/10 05:33 PM
04/07/10 05:33 PM
Niko  Offline OP
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I went through article 500 and i don't think that applies. I may be wrong though. I think in this warehouse the electrical conduits and boxes and such must be corrosion resistance.



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Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: Niko] #193551
04/07/10 07:15 PM
04/07/10 07:15 PM
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Niko:
After going tru Art 500, the next step I would offer is to talk to the local AHJ; Elec, Fire and Building.

Here in NJ, any work you (EC) intend on doing is a site as you describe requires Plans, signed & sealed by a Design Professional (ie: Architect, PE/EE) in order to apply for a Electric permit.



John
Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: HotLine1] #193553
04/07/10 07:39 PM
04/07/10 07:39 PM
Niko  Offline OP
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Thanks John,
I think that is what i need to do.


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Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: Niko] #193564
04/08/10 07:21 AM
04/08/10 07:21 AM
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No generalizations are to be had.

One must tap the industry experience.

Just what ARE they storing there?

Acetone?

Fireworks?

Soap?

Fertilizer?

Too many possibilities.


Tesla
Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: Tesla] #193566
04/08/10 10:07 AM
04/08/10 10:07 AM
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Look at yor classifications and then have the owners tell you if they have anything that falls into those catagories.

Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: Rewire] #193581
04/08/10 04:02 PM
04/08/10 04:02 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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The answer may be "only ionized water", but....who really knows?

The need for an approved plan, and the appropriate permits & inspections will keep YOU out of harms way (trouble).



John
Re: chemical storage warehouse [Re: HotLine1] #193616
04/10/10 03:05 AM
04/10/10 03:05 AM
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As previously mentioned by others, you will need to find out what Chemicals are being stored - along with the "Strength", then base the Class/Division of the installation upon the hazard of the materials involved.

For instance, if the Classified Material is Hydrogen Peroxide 3%, this would be a minor corrosive and minor hazard (may not require wiring per article 500).

However, Hydrogen Peroxide >26% would be Classified as an Oxidizer (Reducing Agent), and therefore would be a hazardous Material.

What the Fire Department designates classification will effect your installation requirements.

As mentioned by others, verify with the Building Department &/or Client, as to the hazard of the Material used or stored.

References should be reflected from the _Approved Plans_, and what is denoted regarding the "Hazardous Location(s) Boundary(s)".
The Architect should have this hatched on the Stamped Approved Plans

If no one wants to give you this information, tell the Architect / Client you are forced to apply the most restrictive Classification and Division, then turn in your Change Order for Class 1 Div 1 wiring upgrades!
That should get some attention wink

Scott


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