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#193048 03/17/10 01:24 AM
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Table one of Ch 9 says if we have one conductor we can fill the conduit to 53%, 2 conductor to 31% and more than 2 conductors the conduit can be filled to 40%.
My question is why 31% for 2 conductors and 40% for more than 2 conductors? what is rational behind it.

An IAEI instructor once told me it is because of the heat dissipation. But he did not explain in details why?

Thanks.


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Niko #193049 03/17/10 01:41 AM
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It just has to do with how they pack into the pipe. Three takes up less room than 150% of 2 and it is volume we are speaking of.
Heat really doesn't enter into it. You derate "x" number of conductors the same no matter what size pipe it is in.


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ask your instructor to elabroate.Then come tell us.

Rewire #193057 03/17/10 03:44 PM
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Rewire,
the instructor was at a seminar. so i don't have access to him anymore.

I have posted the same question at Mike's site http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=123904
but i am still not 100% confident on my understanding.


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Niko #193059 03/17/10 07:23 PM
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It's the radius of the conductors...

Do the math.

It boils down to the straight geometry of circles.

The conduit/EMT is the big circle...

Now how many circles can you fit inside leaving enough room to pull in without excessive force/ruining the insulation.

That's all that's involved.


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Last edited by Rewire; 03/17/10 08:27 PM.
Rewire #193076 03/18/10 12:44 PM
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Expounding on Tesla, 3 conductors can line up in a straight line so all the diameters add up. 4 or more and bundle collapses (the conductors don't ever twist up to line out in a row. Thus the binding issue for 3 conductors.

sabrown #193122 03/19/10 08:32 AM
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just when it all makes sense they bring in nipples


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