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#192226 02/02/10 03:46 PM
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mikeD Offline OP
Wonder how lond it will be before romex is done away with in houses.some body will come up with a better idea about having a insluated ground wire.And making panels bigger to take all these arc fault breakers. there cramming down our throats. dont like them not well enought for just about the hole house to be on arc fault.but who am i until they get these manuf off the code commette that will never change. thats the way there pushing they product if its any good or not..

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mikeD #192231 02/02/10 06:42 PM
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i vote we use RCD's....~S~

sparky #192235 02/02/10 07:16 PM
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Anybody install the Siemens (I think) panel that has the neutral buss that the cb's stab onto?

HotLine1 #192237 02/02/10 08:13 PM
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they do?


sparky #192238 02/02/10 08:58 PM
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Mike, are you driving and typing?


"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."
EV607797 #192241 02/02/10 10:07 PM
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Took a few to find this, hope the copy/paste trick works....

"Plug-on Neutral Combination Type AFCI
brings time savings and a neater loadcenter
thus enabling contractors to meet the
2008 National Electrical Code and not
compromise time and neatness."

Ah...the text only, not the pic

Anyway, here's the link/site

Right side column, 'tab 4'; catalogs; advanced residential....ya get a PDF, & it's on page 38.

(That's the breaker)

Last edited by HotLine1; 02/02/10 10:07 PM.

HotLine1 #192254 02/03/10 07:03 AM
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yeah i see the breaker, and then the pictoral of it in the nuetral buss HotOne, thanks....

on one hand, that would neaten things up, it's been tie wrap city trying to fill a panel full of nuetrals with 30 afci's in a 40 circuit can

otoh, i'd need to change my breaker stock out to those, and then they'd not fit in older panels

i guess if it comes into general usage, i'd go with them...


sparky #192628 02/20/10 01:42 PM
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You have to use ACFI for dining room lights, but not for the kitchen lights, right?

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