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Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: JoeKP] #191003 12/15/09 02:24 AM
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If this based on 2008 then all multiwire branch circuits shall be provided with a means to disconnect all ungrounded conductors at the same time.
210.4(b)
Circuit # 11&13

This could also be a main disconnect that is located inside nearest point of entrance 230.70(A)(1)


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Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: JoeKP] #191084 12/17/09 08:14 PM
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i was just looking at that business page. Acording to the about us section the owner is operating with 2 jopurneyman class "b" licenses. I'm about 99% sure here in ma he cannot operate under any business name other than his own name, which apears on his license. not to be a stickler..

Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: WireNuts29] #191095 12/18/09 12:46 AM
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Class 'A'- master Electrician- Hire as many J-men as you want, Par take in any end of the business you want.

Since this State went with the A-B-C lick my ...... 'Your mother has red hair' licenses.....
BULL CRAP! I don't even know where I stand!!!!!!
What I'm licensed for ETC.

Now they are trying to 'redistribute the wealth'.
A Master Electrician USED to mean something!!!!!!
Now, A low..... Never mind.... I'll B(8&H To others.

It is all about the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oops, did I express my disgust for the Government?

Not sure where I am going with this ,sorry.

But Massachusetts is getting crazy with their licensing rules. Time to take it back.

Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: Texas_Ranger] #191096 12/18/09 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
Tonight I googled to find a picture of a US panel in order to explain some things over at some German dicussion board. I stumbled across this pictures, and before I make any statements on it, I wanted to ask you guys if you see any obvious violations.
Panel picture
According to the web site this is a new panel (site is dated 2008) installed in Taunton MA. A few things struck me odd, such as the apparent lack of a GEC and the white wires on those DP breakers top right.



Have we determined yet, Is this a NEW install,or a change out?
That can and does mean a world of difference.

Before we get too far off track. (as I think I have,above)
Sorry.

Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: WireNuts29] #191097 12/18/09 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by WireNuts29
i was just looking at that business page. Acording to the about us section the owner is operating with 2 jopurneyman class "b" licenses. I'm about 99% sure here in ma he cannot operate under any business name other than his own name, which apears on his license. not to be a stickler..


In Massachusetts:
B lic = journey man.
The company name MUST be- "Ralph J. Cramden. Electrician". Can not be "RJC Electric"- That is a violation- punishable by license revocation.
This J-man is limited to 1 helper- does not need to be an apprentice (registered).

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Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: leland] #191109 12/18/09 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by leland
Originally Posted by Texas_Ranger
Tonight I googled to find a picture of a US panel in order to explain some things over at some German dicussion board. I stumbled across this pictures, and before I make any statements on it, I wanted to ask you guys if you see any obvious violations.
Panel picture
According to the web site this is a new panel (site is dated 2008) installed in Taunton MA. A few things struck me odd, such as the apparent lack of a GEC and the white wires on those DP breakers top right.



Have we determined yet, Is this a NEW install,or a change out?
That can and does mean a world of difference.


I guess there is no way to tell, based on the information given on the web site.
This ias all they say:
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New Panel Install

New electrical panel installed in a Taunton home, part of a two family service installation.

So, at least new service, but lord knows what else.

Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: Texas_Ranger] #191116 12/18/09 11:53 AM
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As to the lack of Grounding Electrode Conductor bonding at this Panel:

The Grounded Conductor may be bonded to the Grounding Electrode System at the Meter Section.

Scott


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Re: Any violations in this panel? [Re: Scott35] #191123 12/18/09 07:26 PM
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--Quote:
New Panel Install

New electrical panel installed in a Taunton home, part of a two family service installation.---

Given that info. the bond should be in the panel.
Simple reason is the POCO no longer wants the bond in their equipment and It must be visible.

Code Art. not handy right now.

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