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luminaires in bathrooms #189405 10/06/09 07:53 PM
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Anyone know if a luminaire above a bathtub is required to be rated as suitable for damp locations? In particular a bath tub with no shower fixture. CEC discusses requirement for switches for luminaires near tubs, and for fixtures in damp locations to be rated suitably.

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Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: jay8] #189414 10/07/09 01:10 PM
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In this jurisdiction any fixture over a tub is required to be vapour proof for 2 reasons. Tubs can be retrofitted for showers and wet hands break bulbs as does splashing water. For some unknown reason people naked in the tub are considered to be at greater risk of getting burned or electrocuted than naked people in front of the sink ;-)

Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: mikesh] #189515 10/12/09 06:21 PM
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I agree that the luminaire should be rated for damp location if installed over a tub. But as you pointed out Mike, there seems to be a little inconsistency in how that is enforced.

Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: jay8] #194255 05/18/10 07:10 PM
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I have to quote a bathroom renovation. Customer wants 2 vapour proof recessed lights in a new steam shower area. Any idea who makes these they will have to be IC type and hopefully match 2 dry type in the main bathroom area.

this is the link to the steam shower unit.

http://www.thermasol.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=215&mItem=2
I cant seem to find the CSA listing mark on the site.

I assume any electrical control has to follow CEC rules . Customer thinks this can be place in the shower smile but looking at the site there seems to be a remote control assembly that can be mounted in the shower and the main LV control is mounted away from reach.

He wants to install this steam unit in a closet. the shower is on other side of the closet wall.not sure if we can have electrical equip in this cloths closet in the bedroom.

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Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: dougwells] #194273 05/19/10 02:02 PM
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Any heating unit in a clothes closet would be a bad idea due to the proximity of combustibles.

As far as the pot lights, are you trying to match existing dry type trims or are all 4 new recessed lights?

Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: jay8] #194274 05/19/10 06:30 PM
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all will be new

Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: dougwells] #194275 05/19/10 10:20 PM
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I have used the Juno IC44 series low voltage housing,both wet location and dry location trims are available to match the housing. I am pretty sure there would be other manufacturers with the same set up.

Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: jay8] #194276 05/20/10 01:08 AM
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Thankyou

Re: luminaires in bathrooms [Re: dougwells] #194374 05/26/10 05:19 PM
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Jay8
Any heat producing device better not get hot enough with covers installed to ignite even gasoline soaked cheesecloth. There is no code prohibition against the steam generator being located in a closet. I appreciate your thinking but it is not prohibited to my knowledge.
I would assume you have seen hot water tanks buried under old newspapers and other stored items. Your steam generator is touch safe except perhaps the outlet pipe which should get insulated like any steam pipe would.


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