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I typically open the fixture and disconnect the feed,on drop ins' and strips.
Recessed,switch goes off and tough doo-doo to the office staff.
not enforcing the fixture disconnect here,switch counts.Lock them out!!! I have been victim (my own fault)of the 3 way!!

What blows me away..for one being that it is illegal to work hot, unless you will interupt life safety circuits. Is how many "electricians" wear jewelry, short sleeve shirts, or shorts, or sneakers, or non cotton or nomex clothing or all of the above. No safety glasses no gloves of any kind, a metal watch. You know why...THEY HAVENT HAD ARC FLASH WHICH BURNED OR IMPAIRED THEM! Complacency KILLS in this trade.

well i do agree ayrton, perhaps some part of the apprenticeship should be producing a decent arc to portray the magnitude of the hazard

but illegal? well there's some serious holes in that, 1st a sole proprietor doesn't have to have zip for osha training, and 2nd any doctrine is really only as good as it's enforcement.....~S~

There are definatly holes in "enforcement"...but read your NFPA 70E for the code

NFPA 70E: Safety in WorkplaceOSHA 1910.333 (a) (1) & NFPA 70E 130.1Qualified electrical workers shall not be asked to work on equipment that is “hot” or “live” except for two demonstrable reasons :1. Deenergizing introduces additional or increased hazards e.g.* cutting ventilation to a hazardous location* emergency alarm systemsor2. Infeasible due to equipment design or operational limitationse.g.* voltage testing for diagnostics * start up testing

EVERY one who works with electric should own a copy of NFPA 70E. Think you would be surprised as to what is in there

oh i've had a copy since i don't know when, and yeah it's a good document, in fact, i really wish it were more a prevelant part of the trades

yet just yesterday the poco asked if i needed an OH service drop shut off to relaplce it

keep in mind here, they asked .....

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