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Cove Lighting... Linear or Fiber? #184284 02/06/09 09:45 AM
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I've installed Seagull ambiance linear cable lighting systems in the past for cove lighting. I put in a 24 volt system with 5watt bulbs at 3 per foot which provided great lighting in a large family room. Owner could read a book with no other lighting on in the room. Kichler now makes a similar product.

I have another project with 56feet of cove and the material with 3 lights per foot is $1500 +/-

I am thinking of looking to fiber for cost savings and ease of relamping.

Anyone ever installed fiber on similar projects? I looking for helpfull input.

Thanks

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Re: Cove Lighting... Linear or Fiber? [Re: shortcircuit] #184286 02/06/09 10:12 AM
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Only did a few fiber installs on IG pools, (linear)perimeter under coping. results were good & owners were happy. Materials were supplied by pool contractors, so I have no $$ idea.

As to cove, I see the 'tube' being installed here & there, and a few "Starfire" custom jobs that are real $$$$.

Selling point for the tube is a low initial cost, decent life, and throw out and replace when needed.



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Re: Cove Lighting... Linear or Fiber? [Re: HotLine1] #185272 03/07/09 12:23 PM
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Hotline...thanx for the feedback. I did some research and the cost of Fiber or linear was to much for the owner. There are some great products for the application,but mostly used in high end residential or commercial applications. The customer ended up going with LED rope lighting at 15% of the cost of fiber or linear.

I am shocked at the cost of linear lighting. Seagull, Kichler and CSL are manufacturers I looked into. Anywhere from $900 to $2200 in parts for a 60ft cove depending on the number of lamp holders used. It consists of #10 gauge wire, little plastic lamp holders, lamps and a transformer. The markup must be huge.

A company in Florida, (SVlighting) makes the Fiber materials which came to about $1600 for 75ft of SV84 sideglow cable, a 150watt MH projector and some associated hardware.

shortcircuit

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Re: Cove Lighting... Linear or Fiber? [Re: shortcircuit] #185274 03/07/09 01:22 PM
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Yes, it's pricey stuff....comm (resturants/lounges)
I see a lot of the tubes in McMansions; Ho's opted for the economical choice.

BTW, I assure that it is approved for indoor use, & UL listed/labeled & wired accordingly

If you run into any LED requests, check out 'BETA Lighting', there's reference to them in one of the photo threads.


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Re: Cove Lighting... Linear or Fiber? [Re: HotLine1] #185285 03/08/09 01:55 AM
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I looked at everything for my house and ended up with rope light. It is cheap enough to just throw away when it goes bad. I put switched receptacles in the cove and plugged it in.


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Re: Cove Lighting... Linear or Fiber? [Re: gfretwell] #185296 03/08/09 07:21 PM
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seems i go through the same routine everytime i'm asked about 'special lighting' needs...

it's too bad there isn't some sort of electricians consumer report that deals exclusively with lighting fixtures.

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