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#182561 - 12/02/08 04:11 PM business related form to talk about prices  
sbi  Offline
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OK, I have an Idea that I want to share. I was thinking that it would be a good ideal to take this business form private. Make this form one where EC could come and chat about prices, laborlaws, customer relations, marketing , basically anything biz related.We would be able to do this with the average person reading the post. This would be like a private post. I cannot really explain it that good but another site that I go to has this and it is awesome.
Well I will be around here alot so lets hear all the ideals you guys have

thanks

Tom


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#182566 - 12/02/08 06:53 PM Re: business related form to talk about prices [Re: sbi]  
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I'm not sure there's any advantage to having a 'private' discussion of such matters.

The first objections are ones of principle ... free speach, the open discussion of ideas, etc.

The very idea of a 'private' forum feeds every assertion of collusion, paranoia, and distrust there is out there. While I can't speak for others, my 'business model' is totally dependent on the trust my customers have in mt.

In a practical manner, anyone can be anything on the internet. It wasn't so long ago, on this very forum, that a 'multi million dollar a year contractor' was exposed as a paycheck collector, with a revoked license. Oops. That didn't stop that gent from asserting all manner of business expertise.
We also had another guy, a few years back, asserting to have great legal expertise .... while also advocating patently illegal practices.

So what of the new guy, wanting to learn the ropes? This is precisely the guy who would be excluded from the forum.

Finally, I question the value of keeping such discussions away from the eyes of customers. IMO, there's just too much 'confidentiality.' I suspect that a lot of consumer complaints would have been avoided, and hack work prevented, if only the consumer had the facts available, had some appreciation of how a business operates.


#182568 - 12/02/08 08:41 PM Re: business related form to talk about prices [Re: renosteinke]  
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Tom:
In addition to what Reno said, I have the following comments.

A 'private' forum can and probably could lead to more bad situations than good ones. Also, keeping it private could be a hassle.

I am not a regular at any of the 'chat' areas here, as mytime is limited. The chat areas require a log-in, so the average 'joe' would have to register. Yes, that can be skirted; a lot of 'us' really don't know who we are conversing with.

Please don't think that I'm being harsh, or trying to deter you from participating here, but going 'private' sounds like a wrong move.

PS: You can reach me via e-mail, it's posted in my profile, or send me a PM here.


If you want, why don't you use e-mail to carry on any discussions that you may deem 'private'?



John

#182575 - 12/02/08 10:18 PM Re: business related form to talk about prices [Re: HotLine1]  
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It might actually open the customer's eyes a little if they did see an honest discussion of how you price things and what your overhead actually is.
They see receptacles in a barrel at the home store for a half a buck each and wonder why it costs over a hundred to get one installed.


Greg Fretwell

#182950 - 12/19/08 05:16 PM Re: business related form to talk about prices [Re: sbi]  
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wow after reading a few threads today, I not sure how i fill about this idea myself now. I hope we can atleast educate the general public on what we go thru.
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