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Double Lugging
#12 on a 60 Amp circuit
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#12 on a 30 Amp circuit
Last edited by electure; 11/15/08 04:39 PM. Reason: add images
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I don't see why someone would do this?
when in doubt jump it out
I happily work for slumlords
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Where oh where did I see this before???
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Some breakers would allow 2 wires under their screw but they would have to be same size wires. This just looks like a bad job.
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#12s under 60a CB=really bad. At least they used number coding, prob. panduits to make it look like a swiss watch too. I guess it could be a tap rule....
How many maintenance guys do you know that "used to be" electricians?
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isnt that the way emon meters are often connected
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Might be the way, but it is a violation unless the brkr is listed for two. Like SqD for example
E- mon requires OCP on voltage conductors
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Each breaker was serving 2 different pieces of equipment in the first photo.
I think even the Sq-D breakers aren't listed for 2 different sized conductors, as in the case of the first photo.
(E-mon meters require a 1/10th amp inline fuse on the line side.)
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I don't see anything on the label that implies the QO breaker can only accommodate one wire size.
It says "1 or 2 AL/CU #8-14"
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One comment I heard a while back was something like.....
"I'm using the <10 foot tap rule! The small motor only draws 7 amps, so the 60 amp is still not overloaded"
John
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