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#181951 11/11/08 10:57 PM
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Double Lugging

#12 on a 60 Amp circuit
#12 on a 30 Amp circuit
Last edited by electure; 11/15/08 04:39 PM. Reason: add images
electure #182565 12/02/08 04:38 PM
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I don't see why someone would do this?

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sbi #182569 12/02/08 08:52 PM
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Where oh where did I see this before???

HotLine1 #183414 01/08/09 09:42 PM
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Some breakers would allow 2 wires under their screw but they would have to be same size wires. This just looks like a bad job.

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#12s under 60a CB=really bad. At least they used number coding, prob. panduits to make it look like a swiss watch too. I guess it could be a tap rule....

How many maintenance guys do you know that "used to be" electricians?
electure #211024 09/04/13 10:41 PM
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isnt that the way emon meters are often connected

electure #211033 09/06/13 12:30 AM
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Might be the way, but it is a violation unless the brkr is listed for two. Like SqD for example
E- mon requires OCP on voltage conductors

electure #211058 09/09/13 11:06 PM
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Each breaker was serving 2 different pieces of equipment in the first photo.

I think even the Sq-D breakers aren't listed for 2 different sized conductors, as in the case of the first photo.
(E-mon meters require a 1/10th amp inline fuse on the line side.)

electure #211062 09/10/13 04:13 AM
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I don't see anything on the label that implies the QO breaker can only accommodate one wire size.

It says "1 or 2 AL/CU #8-14"

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electure #211064 09/10/13 11:32 AM
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One comment I heard a while back was something like.....

"I'm using the <10 foot tap rule! The small motor only draws 7 amps, so the 60 amp is still not overloaded"

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