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#180432 08/26/08 10:08 AM
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.......the GFCI in question clicks softly and randomly about every 20 to 60 seconds. It doesn't trip it just clicks. Then every 30 to 35 clicks it will trip.......

Anybody experienced this?

Checked the wiring OK.......

Checked the downstream device OK.......

Checked the breaker OK......

Is this an internal test?

Any feedback on this welcome and yes I know I can replace it and see what happens, I'm trying to find out why it's clicking.

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Checked the wiring OK.......

Checked the downstream device OK.......

Checked the breaker OK......


How did you check the wiring, downstream device, etc?

Did unplugging everything on the branch circuit stop the clicking?

Is it a MWB circuit?

Is anything else in the house matching the cycle? Like a furnace, heat pump, well pump, washing machine, etc.

Is it a name brand device or a cheap knock-off?

Larry

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Sometimes its easier to just change out the GFI outlet
or ACR fault breaker when this stuff happens. The thing
could be bad. Then if the new one does the same thing..
you can investigate the wiring.

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I just had a customer who is having a similar problem. He has a GFI in his garage that is tripping randomly, say 1 or 2 weeks. It'll just trip with no apparent reason. I checked it out 2 different times. One time I found an outside outlet with loose wires. Thought that was the problem, since he had a fountain pump plugged into it, and thought maybe the arching was causing it. Turned out it still tripped actually the same day that time several hours after I left. I went back, and found a drop cord that was going under his house had some bad places in it. We replaced the drop cord. I then went up in his attic to check some "home wiring" he had done, placed a few wirenuts on joints he had made without putting any on them. Left that time, told him to disconnect the fountain pump if it did it again, and see if that made any difference. Left and he called me back today saying it tripped in about a week after that with no load on the circuit. Since it is getting costly for me to go back each time, I told him to change the GFI outlet, (which he told me was a new one to start with). I suspect the wiring he done may have something to do with it, but without tearing everything apart, I don't know. Hoping it's just the GFI outlet. The reason I didn't change it to start with, is he told me it was new. But his idea of new, I think is a year or two.???
Very odd though that it trips randomly with no load connected to it. Anyway I would try the GFI first on your problem... I also had one, one time that would do a lot of clicking, brand new from HD store. I had to replace it. Hated to though. I had to travel probably round trip of 30 to 40 miles to do it:( Hope it helps.. Steve

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This sounds to me like a minor neutral-to-ground fault on the load side of the GFI receptacle. Not necessarily enough to trip it, but enough to make it "think about it". I've found things like cobwebs in outdoor receptacle boxes to be just enough to cause phantom problems depending upon the humidity level. This minor amount of leakage is impossible to detect in testing.

Then again, how much cable length is on the load side of the GFI? If it's more than 250 feet, that alone is enough to cause them to malfunction even with no load. 250 feet sounds like a lot until it zig-zags all over the house to hit all of the bathrooms & outdoor receptacles. I don't even like to see 200 feet on the load side myself.

Fountain pumps are notorious for causing nuisance GFI activity. Inherently, electric motors have a small amount of leakage to ground and they will have you pulling your hair out since this leakage only occurs while the motor is running. Any kind of small motor load can cause this wacky activity on a GFI though, not necessarily just pumps.

Just a few suggestions. Hope this helps.


---Ed---

"But the guy at Home Depot said it would work."
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I had a problem where the GFCI appeared to randomly trip in the early morning. Cause was located to a scratched wire in an outside outlet downstream. It was related to the dew in the morning.

I had another one that would randomly buzz. I thought the noise was from the nearby trash compactor and unplugged it. The GFCI then faulted later by arcing. I replaced it and when I looked inside it, you could see a damaged coil.

Steve

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I had a similiar problem last week at the park our trailer is in, floating pump in the middle of a small lake. Gfi would trip immediately but when connected to standard breaker (as a test) wouldn't fail, turns out when we pulled the pump and cord (no mech protection) there where nicks in the cable and part of the nuetral was exposed in one place and part of the ground in another.


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