ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Shout Box
Recent Posts
220/230/240V 60Hz Systems
by gfretwell. 09/16/18 12:37 PM
Acronis Backup 2017
by gfretwell. 09/16/18 12:46 AM
Inspection camera help
by Bill Addiss. 09/15/18 11:32 AM
Tingle off the water spigot
by Trumpy. 09/15/18 03:24 AM
Lighting Load questions
by HotLine1. 09/14/18 07:04 PM
New in the Gallery:
Plug terminals
Housebilding DIY wiring
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 10 guests, and 24 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. #178431
05/30/08 07:32 PM
05/30/08 07:32 PM
B
BrandonK  Offline OP
New Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2
Oregon
Hi guy's-I need to install a 120v. outlet in a well house that will serve to power up a electric fence controller. I know due to its location it should be GFCI protected but was wondering due to the nature of electric fences if I will get alot of nuiscance tripping. I would hate to have the GFCI trip and have the cows jump the fence,they have done it once already. Do you guy's have any experience with a situation like this?

2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides
Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: BrandonK] #178434
05/30/08 08:53 PM
05/30/08 08:53 PM
S
sparkyinak  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,335
Alaska
GFCI protection isn't required per your situation


"Live Awesome!" - Kevin Carosa
Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: sparkyinak] #178436
05/30/08 09:57 PM
05/30/08 09:57 PM
G
George Little  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,489
Michigan USA
Sparky- I would agree with your comment that GFCI protection is not required for Brandon's installation. The code reference would be 210.8(A)(2) Exception 2 to (2) 2005 NEC. I would also add that the electric fence should not trip the GFCI no more than a bug zapper would. If it trips the GFCI there is something wrong with the electric fence equipment.


George Little
Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: George Little] #178440
05/31/08 12:39 AM
05/31/08 12:39 AM
S
sparkyinak  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,335
Alaska
yes and no. GFCI's have a tendnecy for "neuscience tripping" in a damp enviornment and giving the importance not losing the heard and it is not required per NEC or other applicable code, I personally would not use a GFCI.


"Live Awesome!" - Kevin Carosa
Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: sparkyinak] #178443
05/31/08 07:13 AM
05/31/08 07:13 AM
Tom  Offline
Member
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,044
Shinnston, WV USA
I've been running an electric fence from a GFI outlet for about 10 years with no problems, but I use my fence to keep critters out, not valuable livestock in. I'd go with a regular receptacle for your situation.


Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: Tom] #178446
05/31/08 08:36 AM
05/31/08 08:36 AM
W
walrus  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 680
Bangor Me. USA
I use a solar powered electric fence smile No NEC needed

Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: walrus] #178449
05/31/08 09:47 AM
05/31/08 09:47 AM
renosteinke  Offline
Cat Servant
Member
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
It does seem like a bit of a contradiction ... shock protection for an appliance that's SUPPOSED to shock you!

In another thread, I question the value of "listing" some products. This is one category where I want a third party, with follow-up inspections, to make absolutely certain that the product works safely.

Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: walrus] #178452
05/31/08 10:41 AM
05/31/08 10:41 AM
S
sparkyinak  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,335
Alaska
Originally Posted by walrus
I use a solar powered electric fence smile No NEC needed
Let me guess, the cattle was only allowed out during the day light?


"Live Awesome!" - Kevin Carosa
Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: sparkyinak] #178456
05/31/08 11:40 AM
05/31/08 11:40 AM
B
BrandonK  Offline OP
New Member
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 2
Oregon
I was thinking 210.8 A 2 may apply because it is not like it is appliance that would be difficult to unplug and the use the receptacle to run a power tool for maintenence on the building and other things. My gut tells me to install a single receptacle for the fence and give them a GFCI next to it for any possible power needs that should arise in the out building (well pump service calls etc ).
Thanks for the imput !

Re: GFCI protecting outlet for a electric fence. [Re: sparkyinak] #178460
05/31/08 12:24 PM
05/31/08 12:24 PM
W
walrus  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 680
Bangor Me. USA
Originally Posted by sparkyinak
Originally Posted by walrus
I use a solar powered electric fence smile No NEC needed
Let me guess, the cattle was only allowed out during the day light?

Either that or a battery. Most new solar chargers will go weeks without sunlight and still deliver quite a wallop.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Featured:

2017 Master Electrician Exam Preparation Combos
2017 NEC Electrician
Exam Prep Combos:
Master / Journeyman

 

Member Spotlight
MarkC10
MarkC10
CA, Inland Empire
Posts: 43
Joined: September 2013
Show All Member Profiles 
Top Posters(30 Days)
Admin 13
Trumpy 11
sparky 10
Popular Topics(Views)
249,287 Are you busy
187,222 Re: Forum
176,580 Need opinion
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.1
(Release build 20180101)
Page Time: 0.023s Queries: 16 (0.004s) Memory: 1.0262 MB (Peak: 1.2086 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2018-09-19 16:43:01 UTC