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JJM #166236 07/16/07 02:09 PM
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Or if the situation permits, framing,box volume,esthetics,etc., install a faceless GFI below the switch(es) with line and load power fished between the GFI and the switch(es).

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JJM #166385 07/19/07 06:22 PM
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Lee, did you meet with the inspector Monday and if so what was the outcome ?
This is Thursday.
Enquiring minds want to know.


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Sorry for not posting sooner, I've had a crazy week.

Yes I did speak with him. As it turns out the inspector who made the original call is the assistant inspector. The head inspector told me that he will often request GFCI protection for the fan but realizes it is not enforcable and that he would sign the card. I said no problem, and I reconfigured the wiring to the have the fan and the shower light be GFCI protected.

In the end everbody is happy and the installation is extra code compliant. I guess I could have doe it from the beginning but I just really wanted some clarification.

I've decided that from now on I will GFI fans and shower lights as a habit just because it really is a better installation and if you plan your circuit it should not cost and extra time or money.

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The head inspector told me that he will often request GFCI protection for the fan but realizes it is not enforcable and that he would sign the card.



Gotta hate those guys huh? They are the kind that give inspectors a bad rep.

If he requested it at a pre construction meeting, fine, no big deal... but to red tag like that was just wrong.

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Congrats.

Here's an suggestion that's worked well for me. It makes an inspector into a happy camper.

Tell him that the GFI requirement is a great idea, even though it's not enforcable. Then suggest that he get the City Council (or whoever) to adopt it as a local amendment to their Code.

He's happy because he had a good idea that was recognized as such.
He's happy (if it gets adopted) because he made a difference.
He's happy at you because you told him how to enforce his good idea.

Plus the next guy won't have the same run-in with an unenforceable wishlist item.


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Sounds like someone need to have the difference between required and recommended explained.
Alan--
"it takes years of experience to know when to do nothing." smile

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