ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
ShoutChat
Recent Posts
Do we need grounding?
by gfretwell - 04/06/24 08:32 PM
UL 508A SPACING
by tortuga - 03/30/24 07:39 PM
Increasing demand factors in residential
by tortuga - 03/28/24 05:57 PM
New in the Gallery:
This is a new one
This is a new one
by timmp, September 24
Few pics I found
Few pics I found
by timmp, August 15
Who's Online Now
1 members (Scott35), 449 guests, and 12 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#16376 11/10/02 10:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 267
W
Member
I noticed in a foundry that their electric conduits in the ceiling to feed various equipment looked like spegheti. The company would like to run major conduit runs through 2 or 3 large J.B.a spread out all overhead around different areas where you can just pipe up and attach electric equipment hard wired, spliced, and ran through a larger conduit back to the panelboard. There could be a possbility of 10-20 ckts. Does the derating factors of 310-16 apply here, and if so, does this installation warrant???

[This message has been edited by Wirenuttt (edited 11-10-2002).]

#16377 11/11/02 07:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,392
S
Member
welcome Wirenuttt
[Linked Image]

IMO, derating would apply, T310.15(B)(2)(a) would dictate 50% off of 310.16 ( 10-20 conductors), however note the math starts at the 90degC collum there.

some consideration for the cieling 'ambient' temp may also apply

The interesting thing is the JB vs. a trough, and the magic '29' conductor limit here;

Quote
376.22 Number of Conductors.
The sum of the cross-sectional areas of all contained conductors at any cross section of a wireway shall not exceed 20 percent of the interior cross-sectional area of the wireway. The derating factors in 310.15(B)(2)(a) shall be applied only where the number of current-carrying conductors, including neutral conductors classified as current-carrying under the provisions of 310.15(B)(4), exceeds 30. Conductors for signaling circuits or controller conductors between a motor and its starter and used only for starting duty shall not be considered as current-carrying conductors.
[Linked Image]


Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5