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#156490 05/13/05 05:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 125
I have my share of stupid attachs. First I am big enough to admit I made a mistake. Second If I broke someone else tools. I would offer to replace them.I have no problem paying for my mistakes. It is to bad not more people are like that. If he does not change his attitude he is not worth what you are paying him.

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#156491 05/13/05 05:49 PM
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He should pay for it, no questions asked.

Who in their right mind would give tools or equipment to an employee without the employee being held responsible or accountable for them?

That is not smart business.....


#156492 05/15/05 09:46 AM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 265
Smart business is doing something that is legal. Doccing someones pay is not.

#156493 05/15/05 03:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
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Show me the law that states that.

And then go to every 7-11, Wawa, gas station, Domino's pizza, and every other business that has a cashier, delivery person, and tell them when their employee's shift come up short, the employee doesn't have to cover the loss, tell them they are not allowed to take the loss from the cash drawer out of the employees check.

In fact just ask the employees of these establishments what happens when their shift comes up short, they will tell you that they are responisble for the money in that cash drawer.


#156494 05/15/05 03:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 135
Hitting someone's paycheck is taken pretty seriously by most employee's, you may get the cost of the ladder back but depending on the nature of the employee(s) in question some may get you back 10 fold by hurting your business's reputation or property, in my opinion it is better to eat the cost of the ladder and let it be a lesson learned. If it was just a brain fart than let it go, but if it is just plain old carelessness then let the employee go.

[This message has been edited by mkoloj (edited 05-15-2005).]

#156495 05/15/05 04:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,064
Absolutly, they get mad.

However, if they are told upfront upon hiring that they are responsible for it, and they will get docked or will have to replace missing or broken items "other than normal wear and tear, mind you", they know what to expect.

If you don't make this perfectly clear and just dock someone without notice, that employee will probably steal from you to make it up, sit down on you when they are at another job. Or worse.

Let them know upfront your policy.


#156496 05/15/05 06:47 PM
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 259
After reading this again, why was a ladder left on a house for any length of time with no one attending it? What if a kid climbed up it and it fell or they did?
Your company needs a ladder safety coarse to teach safety 1st.
Also to you guys that are worried about the 3 or 4 hundred the ladder costs, your priority's are in the wrong place.

#156497 05/16/05 01:29 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 10
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Personally I never ask an employee to replace broken tools/equipment. I cover the cost myself and write it off to his gaining of experience. Of course I've never had to deal with an attitude problem. Every time it has happened in the past the employee has always offered to pay for their mistake.

#156498 05/16/05 02:12 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 42
Hey Dink,
Check with the Labor Relations board. It is a federal law that if an employee is using your equipment and damages it you cannot charge him for the damaged equipment. If you do he may report you to the labor board. However, if you can prove that the damage was caused intentionally, then you may deduct it from his pay.

Have a Blessed Day,
Rick Bruder
#156499 05/16/05 02:17 PM
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 42
You guys would be amazed at the laws the government has to protect the employee. It's amazing how many things we do with our employees that seem fine, but are actually against the law. ie. paying your men truck time. How many guys take there company trucks home at night and get paid when they arrive at the job teh next day until they leave. Illegal. They must be paid for all time in your vehicle.

Have a Blessed Day,
Rick Bruder
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