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Violation? or just Ugly? #122792
01/18/06 12:53 AM
01/18/06 12:53 AM
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Can't seem to figure out if this is a violation or just really ugly.

Its a 100A subpanel feeding some DC rectifiers in a telecom shelter.

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Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122793
01/18/06 02:22 PM
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Looks like someone went a little "coupler crazy" Also whats the green cable in the corner "ground)?


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Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122794
01/18/06 03:06 PM
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Why waste money on perfectly good conduit if you happen to have a bunch of miscellaneous couplings and spare parts laying around?


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Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122795
01/18/06 03:48 PM
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The green cable on the side is part of the HALO grounding system in side the shelter, It runs out to an external grounding ring.

STuff like this is tough to explain to a client when your telling them that there existing work is poor, unless you can point out a violation they really don't care.

However, when their field tech comes to punch out the site, who gets called out for it.

WOuld this fail for "workmanlike" you think?

Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122796
01/18/06 04:13 PM
01/18/06 04:13 PM
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Doesn't look like it'll leak. [Linked Image]

Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122797
01/18/06 04:45 PM
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Does the NEC apply here?

Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122798
01/18/06 05:10 PM
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Yes NEC does apply

or was that sarcasm?

Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122799
01/18/06 06:09 PM
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If everything is tight, whats not workman like about it?? Not sure about the length maybe its need a clamp?? Mineralac?

Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122800
01/18/06 09:01 PM
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A close look at the midle coupling shows what appears to be a flush-cut reducing bushing nder the locknut. That, combined with the exposed threads on the chase nopple to the right, make me suspect that this pipe was installed after the panels were mounted- the various fittings are able to telescope enough to fit between the boxes.

Re: Violation? or just Ugly? #122801
01/20/06 03:22 PM
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John Crighton  Offline
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Well, with all those offset nipples, it's almost too many bends in one conduit run!

1) What's holding that coupling to the left panel? A chase nipple on the inside? Is that an accepted practice?

2) That offset nipple on the left doesn't look like it's threaded very far into the reducer bushing. If it was really made up wrench-tight, I'd expect there would be no threads showing.

I don't think I'd count on a lash-up like that as part of the ground path. In fact, I can hardly stand looking at it...

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