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New Panelboard- Comments please? #122457
11/10/05 11:38 PM
11/10/05 11:38 PM
Trumpy  Offline
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,260
SI,New Zealand
Picture submitted by magoo66:

No service conductors when I took the picture, but other than that, what do you think?

[Linked Image]

Thanks Jeff!. [Linked Image]

Critique away folks. [Linked Image]

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Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122458
11/11/05 04:24 AM
11/11/05 04:24 AM
Big Jim  Offline
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 394
Denver, CO USA
2 romexes per clamp doesn't fit my style.

Wire ties make for a neat layout but I find I ended up cutting most of them if I have to troubleshoot a panel.

Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122459
11/11/05 11:10 AM
11/11/05 11:10 AM
Celtic  Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 361
Looks nice...BUT (and not to bash the installer), why the need for wire ties on solid wire? The wires are nice and straight and will support themselves w/o the ty-wraps.

It IS a very nice job...everyone should be so diligent in "what's behind the scenes". (Even the switch box to the left is a classy install)

~~ CELTIC ~~
...-= NJ =-...
Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122460
11/11/05 11:30 AM
11/11/05 11:30 AM
renosteinke  Offline
Cat Servant
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,316
Blue Collar Country
This install is actually done EXACTLY as suggested in NECA's 'workmanship' standard.

The two cables per clamp is in cmpliance with the UL listing. Such information is found on the box the clamps came in.

Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122461
11/11/05 11:52 AM
11/11/05 11:52 AM
chipmunk  Offline
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 145
Southampton, UK
When I end up troubleshooting on a job like this, yes, I cut the cable ties, but I replace them afterwards, one of the overlooked facts about such a neat installation is it encourages those who come after to emulate the work.

Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122462
11/11/05 11:56 AM
11/11/05 11:56 AM
Tiger  Offline
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 706
Crystal Lake, IL USA
Beautiful job. Be proud.


Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122463
11/11/05 02:58 PM
11/11/05 02:58 PM
mxslick  Offline
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 803
Atomic City, ID USA
A big thumbs up, this is a work of art! Someone has a lot of skill and pride in workmanship for sure!

With that said, since it looks like the feeder has to enter the bottom, how are they gonna get them up to the top lugs without destroying this nice work?

Stupid should be painful.
Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122464
11/11/05 04:50 PM
11/11/05 04:50 PM
Electricmanscott  Offline
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,457
Holden, MA USA
Blue ty ty can't use blue ty wraps.... blah blah blah....

Seriously awesome job. Send this over to Mike Holts board for a real evaluation. [Linked Image]

Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122465
11/11/05 04:59 PM
11/11/05 04:59 PM
iwire  Offline
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,391
North Attleboro, MA USA
Seriously awesome job. Send this over to Mike Holts board for a real evaluation.

LOL, No doubt Jim of FL would find fault with it.

Of course it would work better if it had a feed. [Linked Image]

Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Re: New Panelboard- Comments please? #122466
11/11/05 05:27 PM
11/11/05 05:27 PM
mamills  Offline
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 745
Wharton, Texas, USA
Put a plexiglass cover on this one - it's too nice to be covered up with the usual solid metal cover [Linked Image].

Question: Does derating come into play here, given the small amount of bundling of conductors?

Another question: under what circumstances would a panel be wired before the service conductors are installed? Just curious, because it seems traditionally that the service always comes first...(e.g. chicken or egg...?)

Mike (mamills)

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